I posted this today on Ante Pavkovic's blog. Since he enjoys running off at the mouth and proclaiming himself a victor, I have no doubt this double barrel shotgun of intellect will be deleted soon.
Just so's we know who we're dealing with here.
To anyone who reads this clown's blog:
The following is what Mr. Lily Liver is too cowardly to engage.
1) The debate will consist of an affirmation and a denial. The position to be affirmed is: "The King James Bible ALONE is the Word of God ALONE" or some other acceptable representation of the position.
2) It will be broken down into the following segments:
a) An opening statement of no more than 6,000 words by each side. The AFFIRMING side must go first.
b) A first response of no more than 10,000 words by each side.
c) A second response of no more than 8,000 words by each side.
d) Cross examination consisting of fifty questions that MUST be answered either 'yes' or 'no.' LOADED QUESTIONS are NOT PERMITTED!! If a debater believes the question he is being asked is 'unfair,' he is to appeal to the moderator, whose decision will be final. The appeal must be in writing.
Therefore - a question such as, "Do you believe the Bible teaches the preservation of the Scriptures?" would be valid. However, it would be invalid to ask, "Where is the preserved Word of God?" on two fronts.
SUB-RULES
All arguments must be made BY THE DEBATER. A link may be used for support of a point NOT TO EXCEED a paragraph. The links CANNOT make the argument for the poster (In other words, it is insufficient to say, "Read this link" as any type of substantive reply). ALL citations MUST BE FOOTNOTED. However - to preserve the fairness regarding the number of words, these footnotes may be included AT THE END of the post so as not to count in any 'word count' check.
e) A closing statement by each side of no more than 5,000 words. The AFFIRMING side must go LAST in this section.
3. Several points must be acknowledged and agreed to by both debaters.
a) The debaters will remain respectful at all times. The moderator reserves the right to impose a penalty up to (and including) closing the debate and declaring the non-offending side the victor.
b) The debaters will not engage in use of the ad hominem. These include (but are BY NO MEANS limited to): mocking the name of the opponent, accusing the opponent of any certain act that has nothing to do with the debate, bringing up past behavior as a point of reference, making false allegations against any scholar that cannot be substantiated from primary sourcing, or calling the poster a name (or names). The first infraction will involved an appropriate penalty applied by the moderator; the second will result in a reduction of the number of words permitted in future replpy (or the number of cross exam questions permitted) at moderator discretion. A third infraction will result in the moderator asking the offended party whether or not to continue; a fourth infraction will result in immediate suspension of the debate, the declaration of the non-offending party as the victor and a written public apology by the offending party.
c) Debaters MUST use their allotted words to debate the SUBJECT. If the moderator deems a section of a response to be completely irrelevant to the subject, the moderator will then remove those words from the debate post and the offending party WILL NOT be permitted to resubmit a reply.
d) The use of perjorative language - such as calling scholars on the other side such names as 'Hortians,' 'KJV Only nuts,' or even 'obscurantists' is strictly forbidden in accordance with section b. If such a use occurs and the submitter is unaware of the offense, he will be permitted grace and no infraction received provided he edit the term.
4) OPTIONAL
A question and answer session from members of the board. But each must ask a question of EACH SIDE. The moderator will determine the validity of each question.
END QUOTE
This challenge was issued - almost verbatim - to this self-proclaimed specimen of manhood over a year ago. He's too chicken to take it and has NO REASON - if (as he fabricatingly alleges) he beat me like a drum.
He didn't.
He is, in fact, a coward - until the day he actually grows the courage to DEBATE like he says he will. Until that day, Ante Pavkovic is all mouth and no chitlins.
I didn't challenge him to a wrestling match; I challenged his intellect. Ok, so maybe I'm picking on an unarmed man in his case. Either way, I guess he will continue to posture - thousands of people saw your cowardice on CARM, Ante, and no amount of ducking and dodging - or opening up this kind of cowardly blog that you didn't even have the courage to tell me you'd done (just the opposite of me) - will ever change your cowardly ways.
Saturday, November 28, 2009
Saturday, November 21, 2009
Ante Pavkovic: Cowardly In Debate, Bold Behind The Keyboard
It always comes back to being all mouth but having no chitlings, doesn't it?
Brave Ante Pavkovic. He of the brassy name-calling, anonymous posting, and lying that would make Machiavelli blush - he hath opted to mock me.
Of course, the day that Ante Pavkovic grows the balls to actually DEBATE the King James Only issue that he swears up and down he clobbered me in years ago - until that day, Mr. Pavkovic IS little more than a loud-mouthed coward.
I knew, of course, Mr. Pavkovic lacked the manhood to do that - which is precisely why I challenged him. I knew he would NEVER agree to an actual DEBATE. What Ante calls debates are him posting insults towards people on 'discussion boards' and then riding off and declaring 'victory.'
Now - if Mr. Pavkovic is the bastion of honesty he PRETENDS to be, he will simply admit this. Realizing that the entire world now knows his cowardice, he has chosen a different route that sounds eerily the same: he has opted to suggest he might wish to fight me.
Go ahead, Ante. I have no doubt that you would probably win such an encounter - mostly because I'm a disabled American veteran who can park in a handicapped spot. Hence, Ante - if you were to find me, I'm sure you could beat me to death if you so desired (and I have no doubt given the fact the world knows the truth about you that you DO so desire).
But what would what prove? That you could attack a crippled man? My goodness, Ante, what religion do you imbibe? That would, of course, make you all the more the coward that you truly are.
If you are NOT so cowardly - and if indeed you know you could wipe the floor with me as you have falsely claimed to have done twice before - then why not get your happy little tail over to CARM, accept or modify the debate rules - and let's get it on? If you want to debate verses, we can do that - after opening statements of course.
You see folks, this is why Ante does this. He made the mistake of his life. He went around Internet boards for years getting banned and usually hiding his name - and insulted at will. But the day had to come when those checks his ego wrote came due. And that day has long since passed.
Ante is REAL good at lying. He's REAL good at calling OTHERS liars (which he no doubt does because it is clearly the sin with which he has the most trouble - at least that we know about it). He's REAL good at simply attacking posters.
But I knew he'd never accept such a challenge because that's what bullies do. He has TALKED good for a long time. But with a huge audience that would see him embarrass himself probably to the point of mass peristalsis - his ego was too fragile.
I've never understood why if he's REALLY on God's side on the translation issue (as he delusionally thinks he is) he hasn't taken this one right away.
Mr. Pavkovic - do you care to maybe do a telephone moderated debate over Paltalk or whatver with Mr. Slick?
Brave Ante Pavkovic. He of the brassy name-calling, anonymous posting, and lying that would make Machiavelli blush - he hath opted to mock me.
Of course, the day that Ante Pavkovic grows the balls to actually DEBATE the King James Only issue that he swears up and down he clobbered me in years ago - until that day, Mr. Pavkovic IS little more than a loud-mouthed coward.
I knew, of course, Mr. Pavkovic lacked the manhood to do that - which is precisely why I challenged him. I knew he would NEVER agree to an actual DEBATE. What Ante calls debates are him posting insults towards people on 'discussion boards' and then riding off and declaring 'victory.'
Now - if Mr. Pavkovic is the bastion of honesty he PRETENDS to be, he will simply admit this. Realizing that the entire world now knows his cowardice, he has chosen a different route that sounds eerily the same: he has opted to suggest he might wish to fight me.
Go ahead, Ante. I have no doubt that you would probably win such an encounter - mostly because I'm a disabled American veteran who can park in a handicapped spot. Hence, Ante - if you were to find me, I'm sure you could beat me to death if you so desired (and I have no doubt given the fact the world knows the truth about you that you DO so desire).
But what would what prove? That you could attack a crippled man? My goodness, Ante, what religion do you imbibe? That would, of course, make you all the more the coward that you truly are.
If you are NOT so cowardly - and if indeed you know you could wipe the floor with me as you have falsely claimed to have done twice before - then why not get your happy little tail over to CARM, accept or modify the debate rules - and let's get it on? If you want to debate verses, we can do that - after opening statements of course.
You see folks, this is why Ante does this. He made the mistake of his life. He went around Internet boards for years getting banned and usually hiding his name - and insulted at will. But the day had to come when those checks his ego wrote came due. And that day has long since passed.
Ante is REAL good at lying. He's REAL good at calling OTHERS liars (which he no doubt does because it is clearly the sin with which he has the most trouble - at least that we know about it). He's REAL good at simply attacking posters.
But I knew he'd never accept such a challenge because that's what bullies do. He has TALKED good for a long time. But with a huge audience that would see him embarrass himself probably to the point of mass peristalsis - his ego was too fragile.
I've never understood why if he's REALLY on God's side on the translation issue (as he delusionally thinks he is) he hasn't taken this one right away.
Mr. Pavkovic - do you care to maybe do a telephone moderated debate over Paltalk or whatver with Mr. Slick?
Saturday, October 24, 2009
Ante Pavkovic Slanders Bono
As I've noted earlier, the problem with religious hypocrites like Ante Pavkovic is that their mouths are fully engaged before their brains ever bothers to think a thought. Ante has been whining for over a year, going so far in fact as to threaten to sue me for 'slandering' him. Of course, I've not slandered him at all - unless telling the truth is slandering.
But how would Ante fair under cross-examination - assuming, of course, any lawyer was stupid enough to take his case? Not very well. Because does not the following constitute slander?
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Note the bold
07-07-2008 #1
Synergism
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Join Date: May 2007
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There is no way Bono is a Christian. He is a self-righteous servant of Satan. He is a Rock musician, hence, lost as can be.
Anyone who thinks this man is a Christian is a very Biblically illiterate believer at best, or someone who isn't saved either.
END QUOTE
I shake my head at the incredible audacity of this 'man.' I'm guessing he never bothered to read the KJV that he thinks is inerrant:
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
(John 5:22, KJV)
Apparently, Ante Pavkovic somehow threw Jesus off the throne and has opted to usurp His role. I don't know whether Bono is a Christian or not, but I DO know that he has done a lot of good humanitarian work, far more than simply attacking other Christians on discussion boards, which is Ante's specialty. I'm willing to let Jesus Christ be the judge of such things.
The other amusing thing is the data that Ante used to slander Bono - He is a rock musician and THEREFORE lost as can be? This is legalism at its brightest, folks. You have to meet an UNWRITTEN standard found nowhere in the Bible to actually be a Christian in Pinata Pavkovic's mind.
So I wonder - in all seriousness - how can Ante whine about being 'slandered' when he himself does the same? Keep in mind that Ante did NOT precede his White Throne judgment (issued no doubt from his North Carolina outhouse) with "I think." No, he declared it to be so.
The bottom line? Ante slanders. Hence, his complaining about being 'slandered' is hypocrisy at its brightest. Hopefully his repentance will be as public as his sin.
But how would Ante fair under cross-examination - assuming, of course, any lawyer was stupid enough to take his case? Not very well. Because does not the following constitute slander?
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07-07-2008 #1
Synergism
Forum Member
Join Date: May 2007
Posts: 1,845
Reputation: 163
There is no way Bono is a Christian. He is a self-righteous servant of Satan. He is a Rock musician, hence, lost as can be.
Anyone who thinks this man is a Christian is a very Biblically illiterate believer at best, or someone who isn't saved either.
END QUOTE
I shake my head at the incredible audacity of this 'man.' I'm guessing he never bothered to read the KJV that he thinks is inerrant:
For the Father judgeth no man, but hath committed all judgment unto the Son:
(John 5:22, KJV)
Apparently, Ante Pavkovic somehow threw Jesus off the throne and has opted to usurp His role. I don't know whether Bono is a Christian or not, but I DO know that he has done a lot of good humanitarian work, far more than simply attacking other Christians on discussion boards, which is Ante's specialty. I'm willing to let Jesus Christ be the judge of such things.
The other amusing thing is the data that Ante used to slander Bono - He is a rock musician and THEREFORE lost as can be? This is legalism at its brightest, folks. You have to meet an UNWRITTEN standard found nowhere in the Bible to actually be a Christian in Pinata Pavkovic's mind.
So I wonder - in all seriousness - how can Ante whine about being 'slandered' when he himself does the same? Keep in mind that Ante did NOT precede his White Throne judgment (issued no doubt from his North Carolina outhouse) with "I think." No, he declared it to be so.
The bottom line? Ante slanders. Hence, his complaining about being 'slandered' is hypocrisy at its brightest. Hopefully his repentance will be as public as his sin.
Friday, October 9, 2009
Answering Ante's Alzheimer's
Ante Pavkovic has REALLY gotten mad now!!! So mad that he's accepted the KJVO debate challenge laid down both two years ago (June 2007 to be precise) and one year ago (September 2008) - not to mention numerous times since then?
Hardly. No, so bold that now he's got a THIRD blog dedicated to me.
As I've done now for eight years, let's take Ante's illogic apart.
If you are unfamiliar with Bill Brown or Ante Pavkovic, there is no need for you to read on and enter into a quarrel two are having.
Actually, only Ante Pavkovic is having a 'quarrel.' He called Maestroh a 'liar,' never proved the case, and is an unrepentant jerk about it. On the other hand, Maestroh then turned around and has caught Ante in NUMEROUS lies that are documented on this blog. Confronted with this evidence, Ante again plays the Pharisee.
The difference - as has been pointed out numerous times over the past two years - is that Ante CLAIMS I am a liar while I have PROVEN that he is one. That isn't a quarrel except Mr. Pavkovic's own unwillingness to admit what is twice obvious.
It should also be noted that the evidence on this blog is AMPLE EVIDENCE that Ante has done this to numerous other people. His own 'Charisma' posts show this to be true. So I honestly don't understand what bothers him - except his wounded Croat pride will never admit to being wrong.
Do as Proverbs says and avoid this.
Actually, I prefer this wisdom from Proverbs:
The first to plead his case seems right,
Until another comes and examines him. (Proverbs 18:17)
Mr. Pavkovic falsely accused me of being a 'liar.' He did it to others, of course, but he likes to declare 'victory' and feign umbrage. Yet by his own admission, he has NEVER proven it. His sole case on his French own forum is to strain at gnats and say I said it was the very next post when it was later.
Apparently, Ante isn't bothered with the fact that he opened the name calling, and he knows he did it. Instead, he wants to focus upon certain selected threads. This should come as no surprise since the KJVO position finds its haven in those who appeal to selective evidence and are thus methodologically hypocritical. But let's continue.
But if you are familiar, and in case you have accidentally stumbled upon some blogs dedicated to attacking and slandering me, I offer this blog to direct you to rebuttals of these vile lies, and to expose the liar who posts them--Bill Brown of Lewisville Texas, who posts all over the internet as Maestroh, and who loves to insult and defame people from the desks he sits at.
And you will notice the difference: I DOCUMENT and he merely ASSERTS. This will be proven in the next little snippet.
I guess he thinks telling hundreds of lies is some kind of "ministry".
One would think that if this false allegation were true, Ante could document it. On another occasion he stated that I told fifty lies per paragraph. Yet again by his own admission, he never bothered to prove it. If I lied as much as he alleges then it ought to be easy to throw the one up that proves your case. The mere fact Ante is either too lazy to do this or doesn't have the ammo really isn't my problem.
And let's address another point since he claims I post 'all over the internet as Maestroh' and that I 'love to insult and defame people.'
Those words come from the same hypocritical Croat who wrote the following gems of love towards others:
1) He told poster jdsiv3: . You give it a rest, you sound like a bleeding heart liberal who works for the ACLU.
2) He later told that same poster - in the same thread - You have a problem with God.
3) He told another poster named BAP: Dear BAP;
You know my friend, I'm not going to waste my time answering your nonsense any more because the truth to you is whateve ryou think it is regardless of the facts. You are highly critical, judgemental and just plain conceited.
4) And then we have his angry hate-fest against John MacArthur. This is a VERBATIM QUOTE from Mr. Pavkovic: "He LIES over and over, his "exegesis" is pathetic, and this from a man who once said he has never "felt" the presence of God."
(Never mind that John MacArthur has a WORLDWIDE ministry and a church he pastors with some 14,000 in attendance on Sunday. MacArthur is accomplishing more for God by being wrong than Pavkovic is by being - in his own mind - right).
I could go on and on, but the TRUTH - the Mr. Ante Pavkovic is PLAYING THE HYPOCRITE here is established. He's whining about how I - and this is a quote - post all over the internet and defame people - yet he was doing that back in 2001!
What do you call a person who defames others and calls other names - and then proceeds to complain when he gets a dose of his own medicine as Mr. Pavkovic did?
You call that person a hypocrite. And that is what he is. Geez, his own blog attacking me PROVES it. Of course, I didn't give Ante a mere dose of his own medicine - because his medicine was nothing but opinions. I gave DOCUMENTED CASES where the man is a 100% UNREPENTANT L-I-A-R.
Now he can either repent as publicly as he's lied or he can feign self-righteous indignation. I could care less.
And let's consider something else: yes, I post 'all over the Internet' as Maestroh. He, on the other hand, DOESN'T post very much because he keeps getting banished. Why? Because he only seems to be able to attack other Christians like a rabid dog with a thyroid disorder. He simply does not have the balls to say on the Atheist board or a cult board what he says towards Christians on the A-C and KJVO boards.
Oh, and it's Ante who LIES and comes back after being suspended posting under another name AFTER agreeing in his initial acceptance TO NOT DO THAT!!
It's also Ante who PRETENDS to not be Ante Pavkovic when he posts. He's done that at least twice with me, once as Synergism on CARM and once as Servetus on LAD. What is pretending to be someone else? It's called hypocrisy.
For he surely does not lead souls to Christ, nor does he even try.
You don't know what I do, Mr. Self-Righteous.
Instead, he parades as some kind of scholar and has slandered me for eight years.
This statement is flat out lie and Ante again seems to not notice the refuse in his own back yard. He slandered me eight years ago and seven years ago and six years ago. He really needs to show - since I didn't blog about him until last October or so - where these 'slanders' from eight years ago or else he's lying yet again.
Finally, after a year of him putting up numerous blogs purely dedicated to me and defaming my name and ministry, with dozens of bloggings attacking me(43 this year alone!) with one vicious lie after another, I have put up a forum wherein I have begun to refute his lies, and expose the seedy, shady, bitter, evil character of this man.
Again not true. I'm not the one who is lying about this stuff. MOST of what Ante's whining about are links that go TO HIS VERY OWN WORDS!!! He oughta quit taking it personally and address the content rather than presenting phony umbrage and acting like a victim of something.
And anyone who goes to his attack site should be forewarned - you are NOT going to see a 'refutation' of my 'lies.' The first post attacks my mliitary service and autobiography based upon nothing more than his wild-eyed (Prozac induced, perhaps?) speculation about what he thinks happened. You see, finding out the facts has never been Prevaricator's strong point, either. You won't see refutation. You'll se a vague attempt to try and prove I 'lied' by arguing anachronistically about something based on memory.
And he will never put up ALL of the 'Charisma' threads because they will show him in a much lesser light and only prove what I've said here for over a year: the man is a lying hypocrite who needs to shut up and apologize.
If you want the truth, then go here:
http://refutingliars.forumotion.net/forum.htm
You will find precious little 'truth' there as Ante spins my life story into something he wishes to attack. Again - if I'm wrong on the KJVO facts like he says, why didn't he just deal with that?
Answer: because I'm not wrong, and that hypocrite KNOWS it.
Also please understand, he has the time and the desire to sit at a computer day and night to write these Drive-By blogs, like a true street-gang thug.
I didn't drive by, Ante. You see, unlike you, I linked it and showed it to you right off. You hid yours off in the middle where nobody could see it, no doubt hoping to build it into something. But let's see more in the next phrase.
I do not have the time, nor would I make it for such a man as this.
Actually, you do Ante, and this is another of your flat out lies. You obviously have the time or you wouldn't have that board, would you? And it took you a whole lot longer to do that than it took me to put up my posts because most of my posts link - once again - to your own self-damning words.
Hence, you just lied again. If you didn't have time to do that then there wouldn't be any board - and you have THREE about me now, Bozo. I have ONE about you and I linked another to this same site for when you grow the stones to actually put up those 'debates' that you lost.
Since he will NO DOUBT LIE and accuse me of lying when I say he has three blogs about me, here are the links:
1) http://maestrotheliar.blogspot.com/
2) http://refutingliars.forumotion.net/forum.htm
3) http://antepavkovicreftuesmaestrohtheliar.blogspot.com/
Sounds to me like this Bozo has PLENTY of time to attack those he hates, namely me.
My answers are general in nature, with a number of specific examples and facts that will prove the truth that this man has been given over to a lying spirit, and that nothing but hate and malice is in his heart. Pray for his repentance.
Your answers are always general because you're a clueless farce who lies nearly every time he types something and is a hypocrite to boot. That is DOCUMENTED here and it eats you up.
Why don't you repent, huh? Seems kinda hollow to listen to a documented hypocrite like yourself say that someone he's told lies about needs to repent, don't you think?
Lastly, should this amazing specimen of intimating manhood and bravery, as pictured below:
Call this man a coward and challenge his manhood?
So you are going right over to CARM and signing up and agreeing to beforehand rules and debate, right?
If not, then you are little more than loud-mouthed coward. And you already said you would, but you backed out. Why I should be fearing a 'man' who has yet to deliver on a single threat to embarrass me in debate is beyond my ability to comprehend. But again, we have a Croat saving face here. Kinda like when that Croat head coach Bill Belichik walked off the field without congratulating Tom Coughlin for beating him in the Super Bowl. He just wanted to save face just like Ante wants to save face so bad he'll lie to do it.
Billie Brown needs to stop exploiting the fact that he can use a real Christian's committment to obey God and not prove his manhood to the cowardly, effeminate little twerps who challenge it, like Billie.
Again, if I'm so effeminate, grow some balls, get over to CARM, and let's see your intellectual superiority. Let's see how you wiped the floor with ole Maestroh. You can't do it, and you know it, and it KILLS you.
So you hate me for it. If you'd just shut up and admit you lied when everyone else sees it in black and white, it would go away.
One look at Billie, and it becomes very clear that this man, and I use the term man LIGHTLY, never could back up his lack of manhood, so all he must have ever done is call people names when he felt it was safe to do so.
Again, your name calling is documented here for all to see.
And I believe Goliath said that same thing about David didn't he? So I guess you're just gonna have to get over your bad self and quit acting like a worldly man.
Bill, when Jesus saved me, He also saved people like you from people like me. You better thank God that I do know Him Billie. Otherwise you'd be in for an extended hospital stay.
Is this a threat, Ante?
Your threats just don't mean much to me. I mean, you've made so many in the past that you LIED about that I guess I'm just going to have to laugh out loud.
I would note, however, that the Lord you pretend to serve says this about your words:
Matthew 5
21"You have heard that the ancients were told, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER' and 'Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.'
22"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
I've not threatened to beat you up or put you in the hospital. I have promised, however, to smoke you in a KJVO debate. If you ever grow the stones for such a match up, please let me know. Otherwise, I will consider your threats of bodily injury - which is far from the first I've received from some coward online - to be another instance of you blowing your own out-of-tune horn.
Btw - I hear that Metamucil or Ex-Lax will help with your appearance in that photo.
Hardly. No, so bold that now he's got a THIRD blog dedicated to me.
As I've done now for eight years, let's take Ante's illogic apart.
If you are unfamiliar with Bill Brown or Ante Pavkovic, there is no need for you to read on and enter into a quarrel two are having.
Actually, only Ante Pavkovic is having a 'quarrel.' He called Maestroh a 'liar,' never proved the case, and is an unrepentant jerk about it. On the other hand, Maestroh then turned around and has caught Ante in NUMEROUS lies that are documented on this blog. Confronted with this evidence, Ante again plays the Pharisee.
The difference - as has been pointed out numerous times over the past two years - is that Ante CLAIMS I am a liar while I have PROVEN that he is one. That isn't a quarrel except Mr. Pavkovic's own unwillingness to admit what is twice obvious.
It should also be noted that the evidence on this blog is AMPLE EVIDENCE that Ante has done this to numerous other people. His own 'Charisma' posts show this to be true. So I honestly don't understand what bothers him - except his wounded Croat pride will never admit to being wrong.
Do as Proverbs says and avoid this.
Actually, I prefer this wisdom from Proverbs:
The first to plead his case seems right,
Until another comes and examines him. (Proverbs 18:17)
Mr. Pavkovic falsely accused me of being a 'liar.' He did it to others, of course, but he likes to declare 'victory' and feign umbrage. Yet by his own admission, he has NEVER proven it. His sole case on his French own forum is to strain at gnats and say I said it was the very next post when it was later.
Apparently, Ante isn't bothered with the fact that he opened the name calling, and he knows he did it. Instead, he wants to focus upon certain selected threads. This should come as no surprise since the KJVO position finds its haven in those who appeal to selective evidence and are thus methodologically hypocritical. But let's continue.
But if you are familiar, and in case you have accidentally stumbled upon some blogs dedicated to attacking and slandering me, I offer this blog to direct you to rebuttals of these vile lies, and to expose the liar who posts them--Bill Brown of Lewisville Texas, who posts all over the internet as Maestroh, and who loves to insult and defame people from the desks he sits at.
And you will notice the difference: I DOCUMENT and he merely ASSERTS. This will be proven in the next little snippet.
I guess he thinks telling hundreds of lies is some kind of "ministry".
One would think that if this false allegation were true, Ante could document it. On another occasion he stated that I told fifty lies per paragraph. Yet again by his own admission, he never bothered to prove it. If I lied as much as he alleges then it ought to be easy to throw the one up that proves your case. The mere fact Ante is either too lazy to do this or doesn't have the ammo really isn't my problem.
And let's address another point since he claims I post 'all over the internet as Maestroh' and that I 'love to insult and defame people.'
Those words come from the same hypocritical Croat who wrote the following gems of love towards others:
1) He told poster jdsiv3: . You give it a rest, you sound like a bleeding heart liberal who works for the ACLU.
2) He later told that same poster - in the same thread - You have a problem with God.
3) He told another poster named BAP: Dear BAP;
You know my friend, I'm not going to waste my time answering your nonsense any more because the truth to you is whateve ryou think it is regardless of the facts. You are highly critical, judgemental and just plain conceited.
4) And then we have his angry hate-fest against John MacArthur. This is a VERBATIM QUOTE from Mr. Pavkovic: "He LIES over and over, his "exegesis" is pathetic, and this from a man who once said he has never "felt" the presence of God."
(Never mind that John MacArthur has a WORLDWIDE ministry and a church he pastors with some 14,000 in attendance on Sunday. MacArthur is accomplishing more for God by being wrong than Pavkovic is by being - in his own mind - right).
I could go on and on, but the TRUTH - the Mr. Ante Pavkovic is PLAYING THE HYPOCRITE here is established. He's whining about how I - and this is a quote - post all over the internet and defame people - yet he was doing that back in 2001!
What do you call a person who defames others and calls other names - and then proceeds to complain when he gets a dose of his own medicine as Mr. Pavkovic did?
You call that person a hypocrite. And that is what he is. Geez, his own blog attacking me PROVES it. Of course, I didn't give Ante a mere dose of his own medicine - because his medicine was nothing but opinions. I gave DOCUMENTED CASES where the man is a 100% UNREPENTANT L-I-A-R.
Now he can either repent as publicly as he's lied or he can feign self-righteous indignation. I could care less.
And let's consider something else: yes, I post 'all over the Internet' as Maestroh. He, on the other hand, DOESN'T post very much because he keeps getting banished. Why? Because he only seems to be able to attack other Christians like a rabid dog with a thyroid disorder. He simply does not have the balls to say on the Atheist board or a cult board what he says towards Christians on the A-C and KJVO boards.
Oh, and it's Ante who LIES and comes back after being suspended posting under another name AFTER agreeing in his initial acceptance TO NOT DO THAT!!
It's also Ante who PRETENDS to not be Ante Pavkovic when he posts. He's done that at least twice with me, once as Synergism on CARM and once as Servetus on LAD. What is pretending to be someone else? It's called hypocrisy.
For he surely does not lead souls to Christ, nor does he even try.
You don't know what I do, Mr. Self-Righteous.
Instead, he parades as some kind of scholar and has slandered me for eight years.
This statement is flat out lie and Ante again seems to not notice the refuse in his own back yard. He slandered me eight years ago and seven years ago and six years ago. He really needs to show - since I didn't blog about him until last October or so - where these 'slanders' from eight years ago or else he's lying yet again.
Finally, after a year of him putting up numerous blogs purely dedicated to me and defaming my name and ministry, with dozens of bloggings attacking me(43 this year alone!) with one vicious lie after another, I have put up a forum wherein I have begun to refute his lies, and expose the seedy, shady, bitter, evil character of this man.
Again not true. I'm not the one who is lying about this stuff. MOST of what Ante's whining about are links that go TO HIS VERY OWN WORDS!!! He oughta quit taking it personally and address the content rather than presenting phony umbrage and acting like a victim of something.
And anyone who goes to his attack site should be forewarned - you are NOT going to see a 'refutation' of my 'lies.' The first post attacks my mliitary service and autobiography based upon nothing more than his wild-eyed (Prozac induced, perhaps?) speculation about what he thinks happened. You see, finding out the facts has never been Prevaricator's strong point, either. You won't see refutation. You'll se a vague attempt to try and prove I 'lied' by arguing anachronistically about something based on memory.
And he will never put up ALL of the 'Charisma' threads because they will show him in a much lesser light and only prove what I've said here for over a year: the man is a lying hypocrite who needs to shut up and apologize.
If you want the truth, then go here:
http://refutingliars.forumotion.net/forum.htm
You will find precious little 'truth' there as Ante spins my life story into something he wishes to attack. Again - if I'm wrong on the KJVO facts like he says, why didn't he just deal with that?
Answer: because I'm not wrong, and that hypocrite KNOWS it.
Also please understand, he has the time and the desire to sit at a computer day and night to write these Drive-By blogs, like a true street-gang thug.
I didn't drive by, Ante. You see, unlike you, I linked it and showed it to you right off. You hid yours off in the middle where nobody could see it, no doubt hoping to build it into something. But let's see more in the next phrase.
I do not have the time, nor would I make it for such a man as this.
Actually, you do Ante, and this is another of your flat out lies. You obviously have the time or you wouldn't have that board, would you? And it took you a whole lot longer to do that than it took me to put up my posts because most of my posts link - once again - to your own self-damning words.
Hence, you just lied again. If you didn't have time to do that then there wouldn't be any board - and you have THREE about me now, Bozo. I have ONE about you and I linked another to this same site for when you grow the stones to actually put up those 'debates' that you lost.
Since he will NO DOUBT LIE and accuse me of lying when I say he has three blogs about me, here are the links:
1) http://maestrotheliar.blogspot.com/
2) http://refutingliars.forumotion.net/forum.htm
3) http://antepavkovicreftuesmaestrohtheliar.blogspot.com/
Sounds to me like this Bozo has PLENTY of time to attack those he hates, namely me.
My answers are general in nature, with a number of specific examples and facts that will prove the truth that this man has been given over to a lying spirit, and that nothing but hate and malice is in his heart. Pray for his repentance.
Your answers are always general because you're a clueless farce who lies nearly every time he types something and is a hypocrite to boot. That is DOCUMENTED here and it eats you up.
Why don't you repent, huh? Seems kinda hollow to listen to a documented hypocrite like yourself say that someone he's told lies about needs to repent, don't you think?
Lastly, should this amazing specimen of intimating manhood and bravery, as pictured below:
Call this man a coward and challenge his manhood?
So you are going right over to CARM and signing up and agreeing to beforehand rules and debate, right?
If not, then you are little more than loud-mouthed coward. And you already said you would, but you backed out. Why I should be fearing a 'man' who has yet to deliver on a single threat to embarrass me in debate is beyond my ability to comprehend. But again, we have a Croat saving face here. Kinda like when that Croat head coach Bill Belichik walked off the field without congratulating Tom Coughlin for beating him in the Super Bowl. He just wanted to save face just like Ante wants to save face so bad he'll lie to do it.
Billie Brown needs to stop exploiting the fact that he can use a real Christian's committment to obey God and not prove his manhood to the cowardly, effeminate little twerps who challenge it, like Billie.
Again, if I'm so effeminate, grow some balls, get over to CARM, and let's see your intellectual superiority. Let's see how you wiped the floor with ole Maestroh. You can't do it, and you know it, and it KILLS you.
So you hate me for it. If you'd just shut up and admit you lied when everyone else sees it in black and white, it would go away.
One look at Billie, and it becomes very clear that this man, and I use the term man LIGHTLY, never could back up his lack of manhood, so all he must have ever done is call people names when he felt it was safe to do so.
Again, your name calling is documented here for all to see.
And I believe Goliath said that same thing about David didn't he? So I guess you're just gonna have to get over your bad self and quit acting like a worldly man.
Bill, when Jesus saved me, He also saved people like you from people like me. You better thank God that I do know Him Billie. Otherwise you'd be in for an extended hospital stay.
Is this a threat, Ante?
Your threats just don't mean much to me. I mean, you've made so many in the past that you LIED about that I guess I'm just going to have to laugh out loud.
I would note, however, that the Lord you pretend to serve says this about your words:
Matthew 5
21"You have heard that the ancients were told, 'YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT MURDER' and 'Whoever commits murder shall be liable to the court.'
22"But I say to you that everyone who is angry with his brother shall be guilty before the court; and whoever says to his brother, 'You good-for-nothing,' shall be guilty before the supreme court; and whoever says, 'You fool,' shall be guilty enough to go into the fiery hell.
I've not threatened to beat you up or put you in the hospital. I have promised, however, to smoke you in a KJVO debate. If you ever grow the stones for such a match up, please let me know. Otherwise, I will consider your threats of bodily injury - which is far from the first I've received from some coward online - to be another instance of you blowing your own out-of-tune horn.
Btw - I hear that Metamucil or Ex-Lax will help with your appearance in that photo.
Tuesday, October 6, 2009
The Lying Pen Of Prevaricator Pavkovic
Since he's continually threatening - you know, come to think of it, that guy makes more threats than Al Qaeda - to do this or that while simultaneously WHINING about this blog, let's look at some more of the vicious, hateful pen of Ante "Prevaricator" Pavkovic, Liar Extraordinaire. Except for my comments which are noted, these are the hate-filled words of Ante Pavkovic, Liar Whose Pants Are On Fire.
1) I'm "uninitiated" in the secret GNOSTIC KNOWLEDGE ye Alexandrians pretend to possess
Numbers 2-4 are on the link to #2
2) Sorry Maestroh, but it is YOU who is a liar, and continues to lie here, as you have elsewhere. Me saying that is pointing out a fact. You accusing me of lying is another lie on your part.
This one will give most folks more than just a tiny chuckle.
3) Now Maestroh, the "evidence" you posted is fabulous. All those remarks I made were TRUE, therefore they are outside of the ad hominem realm, whereas your hundred or so accusations and statements about me, what I believe, what I know or don't, what I am capable of, my supposed mental state you claim to diagnose over the internet, yes all these things you say are LIES, and most certainly Ad Hominem.
(Did you see that? So according to Ante if a statement is TRUE then it does NOT qualify as ad hominem. So since Ante hangs around with registered sexual offenders and has been photographed doing so - that's NOT ad hominem of me to point out, according to his own pen).
Note also that he has continued his ALLEGATION of lying but has yet to show it.
4) You are incapable of having a CHRISTIAN debate, because you are full of scorn and hate.
5) Should I wish to WASTE FOUR OR FIVE HOURS combing through your posts, to cut and past every insulting, lying, innaccurate remark you've made, would you or your five fans here actually ADMIT IT? (Ante apparently doesn't realize that this is an admission that he has NOT proven his allegation. Then again, he doesn't seem to know much at all except how to behave like a complete ass*) Please! You have shown NO CAPACITY towards humility at all. You simply fire away one absurd statement after another. Any "debate" with you would never be on the issues, because it is patently obvious that you believe there are no rules--like NO LYING, and you could never stop insulting and accusing your opponent. That much is clear, but hypocrisy and blind rage on your part keep you from seeing it. Methinks Maestroh constantly sees "red". What a sorry existence that is. Ah the fruit of the Spirit--you ought to try it.
And we close with a an ode to Clown Boy's hypocrisy. In the very same post as #5, we find this interesting statement: If you think I am going to sit here and type 1000 pages of proof against your Alexandrian Cult, guess again.
Basically, we have here an admission of his own shallowness. And admission of his inability to prove what he says. But after his hit piece, we then get this ode to mental illness: No one here dared offered a grammatical rebuttal to the points made, of course.
Here, in essence, is what happened:
1) Ante Pavkovic - who by his OWN PEN stated, "I have neither the time nor the ability to document all these things," - threw up a meaningless argument that really had nothing to do with the KJV issue by an ill-informed non-scholar named Nachimson.
2) Challenged on his allegations, Ante tells us he:
a) Won't spend four or five hours to cut and paste my insults and lies
b) Won't write 1000 pages of proof
(The discerning reader should note that if I lied as much as Ante alleged - and he later admitted he's never proven any such thing - then it wouldn't have taken 4 or 5 hours. His hyperbole is the typical Croatian way of 'saving face' when you just got your ass* kicked).
3) He then played the hypocrite by demanding of me a burden he had already said twice he was unwilling to bear. Double the hypocrisy, I guess.
Ante Pavkovic can whine, cry, and pout all he wants. He knows what he is - a pathetic liar, a hypocrite, and one who hangs out with registered sex offenders. It's documented FROM HIS OWN WORDS here and with photograph, and he's gotta save face so he thinks that by opening up a blog that slams me personally, it somehow exonerates him.
Apparently, this is how the man, uh, 'thinks.' He may bring discredit to me (or attempt to), but doing so does not bring credit to his own lying. He seems to be too stupid to know that.
And I can't help but wonder if he's such a 'better Christian' than I am (which he would claim) he doesn't just drop his own blog and then REALLY let God sort it all out. Could it be because it is the accuracy of what's here that bothers him?
I dare say it is. His efforts to make sure he gets the 'last word' et al are futile.
* - Please note that this is NOT an insult of the man because - by his own definitions, a) it is true; and b) it is a BIBLICAL term found in his 'precious' KJV.
1) I'm "uninitiated" in the secret GNOSTIC KNOWLEDGE ye Alexandrians pretend to possess
Numbers 2-4 are on the link to #2
2) Sorry Maestroh, but it is YOU who is a liar, and continues to lie here, as you have elsewhere. Me saying that is pointing out a fact. You accusing me of lying is another lie on your part.
This one will give most folks more than just a tiny chuckle.
3) Now Maestroh, the "evidence" you posted is fabulous. All those remarks I made were TRUE, therefore they are outside of the ad hominem realm, whereas your hundred or so accusations and statements about me, what I believe, what I know or don't, what I am capable of, my supposed mental state you claim to diagnose over the internet, yes all these things you say are LIES, and most certainly Ad Hominem.
(Did you see that? So according to Ante if a statement is TRUE then it does NOT qualify as ad hominem. So since Ante hangs around with registered sexual offenders and has been photographed doing so - that's NOT ad hominem of me to point out, according to his own pen).
Note also that he has continued his ALLEGATION of lying but has yet to show it.
4) You are incapable of having a CHRISTIAN debate, because you are full of scorn and hate.
5) Should I wish to WASTE FOUR OR FIVE HOURS combing through your posts, to cut and past every insulting, lying, innaccurate remark you've made, would you or your five fans here actually ADMIT IT? (Ante apparently doesn't realize that this is an admission that he has NOT proven his allegation. Then again, he doesn't seem to know much at all except how to behave like a complete ass*) Please! You have shown NO CAPACITY towards humility at all. You simply fire away one absurd statement after another. Any "debate" with you would never be on the issues, because it is patently obvious that you believe there are no rules--like NO LYING, and you could never stop insulting and accusing your opponent. That much is clear, but hypocrisy and blind rage on your part keep you from seeing it. Methinks Maestroh constantly sees "red". What a sorry existence that is. Ah the fruit of the Spirit--you ought to try it.
And we close with a an ode to Clown Boy's hypocrisy. In the very same post as #5, we find this interesting statement: If you think I am going to sit here and type 1000 pages of proof against your Alexandrian Cult, guess again.
Basically, we have here an admission of his own shallowness. And admission of his inability to prove what he says. But after his hit piece, we then get this ode to mental illness: No one here dared offered a grammatical rebuttal to the points made, of course.
Here, in essence, is what happened:
1) Ante Pavkovic - who by his OWN PEN stated, "I have neither the time nor the ability to document all these things," - threw up a meaningless argument that really had nothing to do with the KJV issue by an ill-informed non-scholar named Nachimson.
2) Challenged on his allegations, Ante tells us he:
a) Won't spend four or five hours to cut and paste my insults and lies
b) Won't write 1000 pages of proof
(The discerning reader should note that if I lied as much as Ante alleged - and he later admitted he's never proven any such thing - then it wouldn't have taken 4 or 5 hours. His hyperbole is the typical Croatian way of 'saving face' when you just got your ass* kicked).
3) He then played the hypocrite by demanding of me a burden he had already said twice he was unwilling to bear. Double the hypocrisy, I guess.
Ante Pavkovic can whine, cry, and pout all he wants. He knows what he is - a pathetic liar, a hypocrite, and one who hangs out with registered sex offenders. It's documented FROM HIS OWN WORDS here and with photograph, and he's gotta save face so he thinks that by opening up a blog that slams me personally, it somehow exonerates him.
Apparently, this is how the man, uh, 'thinks.' He may bring discredit to me (or attempt to), but doing so does not bring credit to his own lying. He seems to be too stupid to know that.
And I can't help but wonder if he's such a 'better Christian' than I am (which he would claim) he doesn't just drop his own blog and then REALLY let God sort it all out. Could it be because it is the accuracy of what's here that bothers him?
I dare say it is. His efforts to make sure he gets the 'last word' et al are futile.
* - Please note that this is NOT an insult of the man because - by his own definitions, a) it is true; and b) it is a BIBLICAL term found in his 'precious' KJV.
Sunday, October 4, 2009
Ante Pavkovic: Liar, Slanderer, And Ad Hominem Practitioner
Ante "The Mad Croat" Pavkovic whines about being slandered. But he oughta look in the mirror. I don't have access (yet) to his alleged 'Charisma' threads, but let's just look at a few examples of the man's limited vocabulary.
1. By the way, wipe that foam off your mouth. Your irrational hatred of people who are smarter than you causes a chemical reaction in your brain and salivary glands, and its not pretty!
2. It is again quite comical to watch this Goliath taunt the armies and Davids of God. Watch your head! Sadly, el Maestroh makes nothing but one false assertion after another,(In "medical" terms, this level of lying is known as PATHOLOGICAL), and engages in some of the most egregious ad hominem in Cyber-space. Oh, and that self-righteous spirit he operates in---bad news. Prepare for a season of Chastening. You allegiance to Alexandria, and your friendship with Wallace will not spare you from the Rod of God.
3. Methinks Meowstroh is drunk on James White's Calvinist revision of Reformation history and doctrine. Hiccup. As for Donald Waite, in his MANY WRITINGS, he has already successfully refuted every one of these fables asserted by our mental-health expert.
4. The above statements of mine are historical facts. They don't need footnotes for those like Meowstroh, who pretends to be a textual scholar and historian. (Translation: PROVING his allegations, well, he just can't do that. I think the man is the epitome of the lazy bully).
5. Really. Then how did you turn out so arrogant and hateful? (Note this clown's words RIGHT AFTER THIS INSULT: What you lack in substance you think you can make up for with heat, steam, emotion, insults, and endless ad hominem, as well as incessant circular arguments, where you cede a premise to yourself that needs to be proven when you "ask" your "questions". Your "debate" tactics are from beneath, not above.
I hope the discerning reader will note that Mr. Pavkovic is the one who avoids debate, Mr. Pavkovic is the one who never answered the why behind I John 5:7, and Mr. Pavkovic is the one screeching about hatred and then showing it.
Again, every one of these links to HIS OWN WORDS. Apparently, he didn't bother to think before he spoke. But let's continue with some more of the Lying Champion's greatest hits:
6. Dr. Ad Hominem said: (this is one of the names he called me despite saying in another place he had ONLY called me biblical designations. Yet another in the laundry list of lies by Ante Pavkovic).
Here is a list of these attacks and more from our resident Pinata.
1. By the way, wipe that foam off your mouth. Your irrational hatred of people who are smarter than you causes a chemical reaction in your brain and salivary glands, and its not pretty!
2. It is again quite comical to watch this Goliath taunt the armies and Davids of God. Watch your head! Sadly, el Maestroh makes nothing but one false assertion after another,(In "medical" terms, this level of lying is known as PATHOLOGICAL), and engages in some of the most egregious ad hominem in Cyber-space. Oh, and that self-righteous spirit he operates in---bad news. Prepare for a season of Chastening. You allegiance to Alexandria, and your friendship with Wallace will not spare you from the Rod of God.
3. Methinks Meowstroh is drunk on James White's Calvinist revision of Reformation history and doctrine. Hiccup. As for Donald Waite, in his MANY WRITINGS, he has already successfully refuted every one of these fables asserted by our mental-health expert.
4. The above statements of mine are historical facts. They don't need footnotes for those like Meowstroh, who pretends to be a textual scholar and historian. (Translation: PROVING his allegations, well, he just can't do that. I think the man is the epitome of the lazy bully).
5. Really. Then how did you turn out so arrogant and hateful? (Note this clown's words RIGHT AFTER THIS INSULT: What you lack in substance you think you can make up for with heat, steam, emotion, insults, and endless ad hominem, as well as incessant circular arguments, where you cede a premise to yourself that needs to be proven when you "ask" your "questions". Your "debate" tactics are from beneath, not above.
I hope the discerning reader will note that Mr. Pavkovic is the one who avoids debate, Mr. Pavkovic is the one who never answered the why behind I John 5:7, and Mr. Pavkovic is the one screeching about hatred and then showing it.
Again, every one of these links to HIS OWN WORDS. Apparently, he didn't bother to think before he spoke. But let's continue with some more of the Lying Champion's greatest hits:
6. Dr. Ad Hominem said: (this is one of the names he called me despite saying in another place he had ONLY called me biblical designations. Yet another in the laundry list of lies by Ante Pavkovic).
Here is a list of these attacks and more from our resident Pinata.
Saturday, October 3, 2009
What Refutation, Ante?
So I'm doing a web search the other day and come across the fact that Mr. Pavkovic now has not only a forum but also a blog dedicated to attacking me. Unlike Ante, though, I don't care that much because documentation is to Ante as kryptonite to Superman.
But since he thought it worth one post to link to his forum (which, I believe, is based in France and typical of the cowardly way Mr. Pavkovic works; he obviously fears I will sue him, mostly because:
a) he has threatened to do so to me
b) he thinks I'm as stupid as he is.
The day he learns that b is not true, he will have begun his enlightenment.
But let's go through this right now seriatim.
This blog is simply to direct you to the truth. Should you have stumbled upon a number of blogs dedicated to smearing and slandering me , I direct you to some answers, and an expose of the vicious internet thug, who pretends to be a Christian--Bill Brown aka Maestroh.
Wow, talk about some double talk. In the second sentence he alleges (but never proves) that he has been 'smear'ed and 'slander'ed, but he provides no link and no proof. Then - in the VERY SAME SENTENCE - Mr. Pavkovic refers to his opponent with three slanders of his own:
1) vicious
2) internet thug
3) pretends to be a Christian
It appears to me in light of lack of proof of same that Ante Pavkovic REALLY DOESN'T MIND SLANDER - just so he's the one doing it. There's a word for that and it starts with hippo and ends with crit. We see right out of the chute that my blog, dedicated to Lying Ante, is aptly proven to be correct. Gee, it only took two sentences that time.
For eight years he has slandered and libeled me, and will not cease until the Lord deals with him directly, or Biblical protocol is followed by me to bring this lying rebel to accountability.
I'd be very interested in documentation of the charge that I have 'slandered' and 'libeled' him for 'eight years.' It is true that eight years ago we had a confrontation on 'Charisma' - one he's still mad about because, to put it bluntly, he had nothing to offer but insults and made up facts on the spot (like his asinine claim that - and this is a direct quote: "The TR was being qouted from often by men from 90- 300 AD!").
That must've been news to Erasmus.
Furthermore, Ante seems not to realize that he has his own problems with the truth - namely, he wouldn't know it if it hit him in the face.
And then we have my favorite part of this sojourn into nonsense Croatia-land: his claim of biblical accountability. YOU are the one who threatened to sue me, you self-righteous moron. YOU are the one who decided you'd violate Scripture - all the while accusing me of that and falsely might I add.
Not only are you the biggest fraud on the Internet, they don't come any dumber.
The link proving this man is a long-time bitter liar is here:
(Since he won't link my site, I'm not linking his, hee hee)
And what do we find at this blog?
Refutation?
Well, that all depends on the definition of 'refutation.' But here's what we have:
His first post attacks my military service, salary, and character without ever really defining anything. Not only are his 'facts' wrong (hardly surprising) but he doesn't even have all of them. Yet that's exactly what stupid people do - go off with their mouths half-cocked like Ante Pavkovic. Maybe one day he'll bother to find out the facts.
His second post CLAIMS to have 'the original threads' from 'Charisma,' but all we get is one page. He doesn't put the rest of them up and there's a GOOD reason for that - they would utterly embarrass him with his ineptitude on the subject, and he KNOWS that. He apparently hasn't read the copies that he has so obssessively-compulsively held onto for eight years because they make him look like a total buffoon. Then again - since he's a fundamentalist - he probably doesn't realize that.
And he has another post where he whines about the deck being stacked against him because he's been banned from Charisma, Sharper Iron, CARM, and virtually everywhere he's ever posted. You'd think a smart man would get the hint - since the ONLY COMMON THREAD in all of his bannings has been, uh, Ante Pavkovic.
As Tim Wilson sang, "Been married nine times? Well, it's probably you." Apparently, though, Ante is too busy judging others (witness his basic declaration of me as a pretender) to take the board out of his own blind eye.
His 'refutation' is what it's always been - nothing but cheap insults. He's the chicken who's been challenged to debate and can't even write an opening statement - but wants to claim he 'beat' me eight years ago. Again, we see who's obssssed.
My forum refuting this scornful man is not complete, but will be as I have time.
Sure it will. And hopefully he'll be honest. He'll admit that the KJV translators said the EXACT OPPOSITE about their KJV from what Psychotic Ante believes - and that he never refuted that point I made nor any of the 18 points on the 'KJV Onlyism' thread posted in March 2001.
Bill Brown sits around at work and posts vile internet hit-pieces, and then goes home and continues to do this.
What have I said about you that's untrue, Ante?
Not a thing. That's what bothers you. Oh, and get your facts straight, Bozo. How in the world could I 'go home' and 'continue to do this' - this being 'posts vile internet hit-pieces' - when you know full well that the reason you know I posted at work was because, duh, my home computer fried.
In other words, you told ANOTHER one of your patented LIES that you KNEW WAS A LIE when you said it.
But no matter. Ultimatately, this shameless liar will stand before God, and there all his clever lies, half-truths, subtil shifting of evidence, and all the malicious lying will be brought into the light. There this impenitent rebel against truth and love will see that our God is a consuming Fire.
Sure, Ante.
You can't even produce one 'lie' I've allegedly told, I've produced dozens that you've told (including in the last response) - and you want to PRETEND that you're worried about me?
I guess you're more blind than I thought. Anyway, the debate board is always open if you ever grow the stones.
But since he thought it worth one post to link to his forum (which, I believe, is based in France and typical of the cowardly way Mr. Pavkovic works; he obviously fears I will sue him, mostly because:
a) he has threatened to do so to me
b) he thinks I'm as stupid as he is.
The day he learns that b is not true, he will have begun his enlightenment.
But let's go through this right now seriatim.
This blog is simply to direct you to the truth. Should you have stumbled upon a number of blogs dedicated to smearing and slandering me , I direct you to some answers, and an expose of the vicious internet thug, who pretends to be a Christian--Bill Brown aka Maestroh.
Wow, talk about some double talk. In the second sentence he alleges (but never proves) that he has been 'smear'ed and 'slander'ed, but he provides no link and no proof. Then - in the VERY SAME SENTENCE - Mr. Pavkovic refers to his opponent with three slanders of his own:
1) vicious
2) internet thug
3) pretends to be a Christian
It appears to me in light of lack of proof of same that Ante Pavkovic REALLY DOESN'T MIND SLANDER - just so he's the one doing it. There's a word for that and it starts with hippo and ends with crit. We see right out of the chute that my blog, dedicated to Lying Ante, is aptly proven to be correct. Gee, it only took two sentences that time.
For eight years he has slandered and libeled me, and will not cease until the Lord deals with him directly, or Biblical protocol is followed by me to bring this lying rebel to accountability.
I'd be very interested in documentation of the charge that I have 'slandered' and 'libeled' him for 'eight years.' It is true that eight years ago we had a confrontation on 'Charisma' - one he's still mad about because, to put it bluntly, he had nothing to offer but insults and made up facts on the spot (like his asinine claim that - and this is a direct quote: "The TR was being qouted from often by men from 90- 300 AD!").
That must've been news to Erasmus.
Furthermore, Ante seems not to realize that he has his own problems with the truth - namely, he wouldn't know it if it hit him in the face.
And then we have my favorite part of this sojourn into nonsense Croatia-land: his claim of biblical accountability. YOU are the one who threatened to sue me, you self-righteous moron. YOU are the one who decided you'd violate Scripture - all the while accusing me of that and falsely might I add.
Not only are you the biggest fraud on the Internet, they don't come any dumber.
The link proving this man is a long-time bitter liar is here:
(Since he won't link my site, I'm not linking his, hee hee)
And what do we find at this blog?
Refutation?
Well, that all depends on the definition of 'refutation.' But here's what we have:
His first post attacks my military service, salary, and character without ever really defining anything. Not only are his 'facts' wrong (hardly surprising) but he doesn't even have all of them. Yet that's exactly what stupid people do - go off with their mouths half-cocked like Ante Pavkovic. Maybe one day he'll bother to find out the facts.
His second post CLAIMS to have 'the original threads' from 'Charisma,' but all we get is one page. He doesn't put the rest of them up and there's a GOOD reason for that - they would utterly embarrass him with his ineptitude on the subject, and he KNOWS that. He apparently hasn't read the copies that he has so obssessively-compulsively held onto for eight years because they make him look like a total buffoon. Then again - since he's a fundamentalist - he probably doesn't realize that.
And he has another post where he whines about the deck being stacked against him because he's been banned from Charisma, Sharper Iron, CARM, and virtually everywhere he's ever posted. You'd think a smart man would get the hint - since the ONLY COMMON THREAD in all of his bannings has been, uh, Ante Pavkovic.
As Tim Wilson sang, "Been married nine times? Well, it's probably you." Apparently, though, Ante is too busy judging others (witness his basic declaration of me as a pretender) to take the board out of his own blind eye.
His 'refutation' is what it's always been - nothing but cheap insults. He's the chicken who's been challenged to debate and can't even write an opening statement - but wants to claim he 'beat' me eight years ago. Again, we see who's obssssed.
My forum refuting this scornful man is not complete, but will be as I have time.
Sure it will. And hopefully he'll be honest. He'll admit that the KJV translators said the EXACT OPPOSITE about their KJV from what Psychotic Ante believes - and that he never refuted that point I made nor any of the 18 points on the 'KJV Onlyism' thread posted in March 2001.
Bill Brown sits around at work and posts vile internet hit-pieces, and then goes home and continues to do this.
What have I said about you that's untrue, Ante?
Not a thing. That's what bothers you. Oh, and get your facts straight, Bozo. How in the world could I 'go home' and 'continue to do this' - this being 'posts vile internet hit-pieces' - when you know full well that the reason you know I posted at work was because, duh, my home computer fried.
In other words, you told ANOTHER one of your patented LIES that you KNEW WAS A LIE when you said it.
But no matter. Ultimatately, this shameless liar will stand before God, and there all his clever lies, half-truths, subtil shifting of evidence, and all the malicious lying will be brought into the light. There this impenitent rebel against truth and love will see that our God is a consuming Fire.
Sure, Ante.
You can't even produce one 'lie' I've allegedly told, I've produced dozens that you've told (including in the last response) - and you want to PRETEND that you're worried about me?
I guess you're more blind than I thought. Anyway, the debate board is always open if you ever grow the stones.
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