On February 5 of this year, Operation Save America's resident nutbag Ante Pavkovic launched another one of his broadsides against his fellow Christians. Pavkovic has become something of an Internet clown over the last decade with his hateful 'defenses' of the King James Bible as the only real Bible, including attacking this particular blogger personally numerous times.
Why then in the speech cited did Ante Pavkovic cite from the New Living Translation bible in his diatribe against Todd Bentley?
What did Ante Pavkovic say on March 8, 2001 on his very own "Charisma" thread?
A prayerful, open study of all the materials, including a understanding of the argument posited by Hills regarding where the logic of faith and Preservation leads, causes you to come to a right conclusion. You cannot escape where the trail of truth, facts and history lead--the AV1611. It is THE BIBLE.
He follows this with:
The obvious fact that God refuses to let men push aside the version that He was pleased to give to the world should cause you to be careful sir, lest on judgement day you find that you partook of other men's sins--the attacking and undermining of the very words of God. I know that such a thought is foreign to most christians, who don't even think about the fact that one day they will stand before God and give a thorough account to Him. What seems like nothing now may be a BIG DEAL THEN!
Why then after saying that somebody was undermining the very words of God would Ante Pavkovic himself use a version that - according to him - is based on a "Hortian lie" (3/7/01) and undermines God's Word?
The answer, of course, is that Ante Pavkovic is a pompous hypocrite who thinks God has one set of standards for him and another for every single other person on the planet. This is hardly the first time Pavkovic has been caught dead-to-rights being a hypocrite as this blog amply documents.
OSA may or may not be a KJVO organization, I don't know; I do know, however, they have a hypocrite as one of their leading front men.
Saturday, July 24, 2010
Saturday, July 3, 2010
Yet Another Lie By Ante Pavkovic
The Internets have been quiet with any response from Ante Pavkovic. Face it, when you get caught red-handed LYING out your backside (as he has) and being two-faced, you simply keep a very low profile. But just so we can establish a quick link for anyone looking for information on this pathetic liar, let's make it simple.
Now let's make it clear: Ante Pavkovic has said VERY CLEARLY : "Well, he was a slanderous liar. Where do liars go? See Rev 21:8"
Make no mistake: Ante Pavkovic has determined from his own warped interpretation of Scripture that liars go to Hell. Fair enough. So then if we can simply prove that Ante Pavkovic himself LIES then what would that mean? Well, it would mean he's heading for a Southbound address, hot with no chance of clouds. Can we determine that Ante Pavkovic lies? Yes, we most certainly can. It is EASY to prove - so easy that his only 'rebuttal' has been to say that if you say he lies then you yourself are lying.
But let's go one step further: the same Bible Ante reads that says liars go to Hell ALSO says that hypocrites go to Hell (Matthew 24:51). So if one can prove Ante Pavkovic himself is a hypocrite then - according again to his own flawed human reasoning - Ante Pavkovic is going to Hell. Except, of course, he repents, which we pray for.
So given these foundations as voiced by Ante himself - can we find proof Ante Pavkovic lies? And can we find proof that Ante Pavkovic is a hypocrite?
The answer - sadly - is a pure and undiluted "yes." Here is a link list of examples:
1) Ante Pavkovic violated the very rules he promised he would follow at CARM.
Among the rules at CARM are no personal attacks (which he violated repeatedly), no public questioning of the moderators (which got him banned twice), and no coming back posting under another name. In a world where God said his yes should be yes, Ante hid under another name. First, he came back and posted as OneCalvinist. Then he came back and posted as praisejah.
(Some links don't work because he was banished forever from CARM - which only proves the point that he lied when he agreed to abide by the rules).
2) Ante calls people unbiblical designations and insists he has NOT done so.
His quote from CARM:
Maestroh likes to call people morons, asses, idiots, fools, and the like. I HAVE NOT called him such things--that is name calling.
But note here he calls me - among other things - a quack. Is THAT a biblical term?
No. But Ante says that using unbilbical designations is name calling. Yet that is EXACTLY what he did unless he can show me quack in the KJV.
3) On June 23, 2007, he claimed: "I would rather debate you live and in person before a church or crowd, with a moderator...If you want a debate, a real debate, and if you are so sure of your position, arrange a live debate, make sure YOU show up, and we'll see whose position is "flimsy". But the moment I found a moderator, I got some 20 or so excuses as to why he couldn't debate. In short, this Internet bully's answer went from "Let's rock" to "I've got a hangnail."
4) Ante stated that the NIV translation "had no reasons" for rendering Micah 5:2 as origins. What is funny is that this is one of the first points I made to him in March 2001 - on those threads he started posted and then thought better of.
But he had been warned TWICE before making this lying claim.
5) Ante uses Wikipedia after bashing another person for using Wikipedia citing it's unreliability.
6) Ante cites David Cloud as a source but then declares Cloud to be unreliable.
So what have we established?
Ante Pavkovic is a liar, plain and simple.
Ante Pavkovic is a hypocrite, plain and simple.
He needs to actually repent rather than calling for others to do what he is unwilling to do. His offense is public and consequently his repentance must also be public. Otherwise, Operation Save America has no business having a public liar in their ministry. If they do then it is a reflection upon them as aiding and abetting a known liar.
Now let's make it clear: Ante Pavkovic has said VERY CLEARLY : "Well, he was a slanderous liar. Where do liars go? See Rev 21:8"
Make no mistake: Ante Pavkovic has determined from his own warped interpretation of Scripture that liars go to Hell. Fair enough. So then if we can simply prove that Ante Pavkovic himself LIES then what would that mean? Well, it would mean he's heading for a Southbound address, hot with no chance of clouds. Can we determine that Ante Pavkovic lies? Yes, we most certainly can. It is EASY to prove - so easy that his only 'rebuttal' has been to say that if you say he lies then you yourself are lying.
But let's go one step further: the same Bible Ante reads that says liars go to Hell ALSO says that hypocrites go to Hell (Matthew 24:51). So if one can prove Ante Pavkovic himself is a hypocrite then - according again to his own flawed human reasoning - Ante Pavkovic is going to Hell. Except, of course, he repents, which we pray for.
So given these foundations as voiced by Ante himself - can we find proof Ante Pavkovic lies? And can we find proof that Ante Pavkovic is a hypocrite?
The answer - sadly - is a pure and undiluted "yes." Here is a link list of examples:
1) Ante Pavkovic violated the very rules he promised he would follow at CARM.
Among the rules at CARM are no personal attacks (which he violated repeatedly), no public questioning of the moderators (which got him banned twice), and no coming back posting under another name. In a world where God said his yes should be yes, Ante hid under another name. First, he came back and posted as OneCalvinist. Then he came back and posted as praisejah.
(Some links don't work because he was banished forever from CARM - which only proves the point that he lied when he agreed to abide by the rules).
2) Ante calls people unbiblical designations and insists he has NOT done so.
His quote from CARM:
Maestroh likes to call people morons, asses, idiots, fools, and the like. I HAVE NOT called him such things--that is name calling.
But note here he calls me - among other things - a quack. Is THAT a biblical term?
No. But Ante says that using unbilbical designations is name calling. Yet that is EXACTLY what he did unless he can show me quack in the KJV.
3) On June 23, 2007, he claimed: "I would rather debate you live and in person before a church or crowd, with a moderator...If you want a debate, a real debate, and if you are so sure of your position, arrange a live debate, make sure YOU show up, and we'll see whose position is "flimsy". But the moment I found a moderator, I got some 20 or so excuses as to why he couldn't debate. In short, this Internet bully's answer went from "Let's rock" to "I've got a hangnail."
4) Ante stated that the NIV translation "had no reasons" for rendering Micah 5:2 as origins. What is funny is that this is one of the first points I made to him in March 2001 - on those threads he started posted and then thought better of.
But he had been warned TWICE before making this lying claim.
5) Ante uses Wikipedia after bashing another person for using Wikipedia citing it's unreliability.
6) Ante cites David Cloud as a source but then declares Cloud to be unreliable.
So what have we established?
Ante Pavkovic is a liar, plain and simple.
Ante Pavkovic is a hypocrite, plain and simple.
He needs to actually repent rather than calling for others to do what he is unwilling to do. His offense is public and consequently his repentance must also be public. Otherwise, Operation Save America has no business having a public liar in their ministry. If they do then it is a reflection upon them as aiding and abetting a known liar.
Saturday, June 19, 2010
The Hypocritical Slam Dunk: Ante Criticizes Someone For Using Wikipedia - And Then Uses It Himself!!
As I've said, the problem with Ante Pavkovic's hypocrisy is that you just don't even have to look very hard to find it. Let's see Ante fall on both sides of the issue just like Bil Clinton
1) Ante Blasts Another Poster For Using Wikipedia
HERE
Perhaps Steve is unaware that Wikepdia is HARDLY a research site. Anyone, AND I MEAN ANYONE can post there whatever they want! The fact he quotes from this FRIVILOUS source to "prove" I am a deceiver says it all. Someone has a pride-issue. I gave you qoutations and referred to you actual RESEARCH with Statistics and records of every study done to show accuracy. Steve responds with a Wiki article! LOL! That's how he can maintain his errors about what I have said, and about me personally.
Hmm. So Steve (whom Ante is attacking) is a deceiver who uses what Ante terms a frivolous source, huh?
So it's safe to say that Ante himself would NEVER use Wikipedia, right?
Oops - somebody just got busted again!!
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Our brave little hypocrite tells us - in the fourth paragraph:
Rick Joyner’s mentors have been Bob Jones, a man who would counsel women to take off their clothes and “stand transparent before the Lord” while he "ministered" to them "prophetically" by fondling them (Wikipedia, Mike Bickle, note 16).
WOW!! Did you catch that? Ante Pavkovic slams a poster for using Wikipedia nd calls it frivlous BUT - as is ALWAYS the case with hypocrites like Ante - it wasn't too frivlous for HIM to use, was it?
(Now - I realize that Ante's method of "repenting" which he never does though demanding it of others - will be to simply edit it out. Too bad, Ante. I learned a lot from you and the first thing I learned is to save copoies when liars like you are exposed.
Oh and he can lie all he wants - I'm sure he'll blame somebody else. Mostly because that's what hypocrites like Ante Pavkovic always do when caught red-handed.
1) Ante Blasts Another Poster For Using Wikipedia
HERE
Perhaps Steve is unaware that Wikepdia is HARDLY a research site. Anyone, AND I MEAN ANYONE can post there whatever they want! The fact he quotes from this FRIVILOUS source to "prove" I am a deceiver says it all. Someone has a pride-issue. I gave you qoutations and referred to you actual RESEARCH with Statistics and records of every study done to show accuracy. Steve responds with a Wiki article! LOL! That's how he can maintain his errors about what I have said, and about me personally.
Hmm. So Steve (whom Ante is attacking) is a deceiver who uses what Ante terms a frivolous source, huh?
So it's safe to say that Ante himself would NEVER use Wikipedia, right?
Oops - somebody just got busted again!!
Click here
Our brave little hypocrite tells us - in the fourth paragraph:
Rick Joyner’s mentors have been Bob Jones, a man who would counsel women to take off their clothes and “stand transparent before the Lord” while he "ministered" to them "prophetically" by fondling them (Wikipedia, Mike Bickle, note 16).
WOW!! Did you catch that? Ante Pavkovic slams a poster for using Wikipedia nd calls it frivlous BUT - as is ALWAYS the case with hypocrites like Ante - it wasn't too frivlous for HIM to use, was it?
(Now - I realize that Ante's method of "repenting" which he never does though demanding it of others - will be to simply edit it out. Too bad, Ante. I learned a lot from you and the first thing I learned is to save copoies when liars like you are exposed.
Oh and he can lie all he wants - I'm sure he'll blame somebody else. Mostly because that's what hypocrites like Ante Pavkovic always do when caught red-handed.
Saturday, June 12, 2010
Ante Pavkovic Shows Us That "Love For Jesus" With His Hate-Filled Mouth
Does Ante Pavkovic ever READ his Bible? I hope so because if he did he would see these haunting words in his very own KJV:
36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Remember what I said about hypocrites - how the secret hope of a hypocrite is that God will judge him with a different scale? Well when your neck-deep in hypocrisy you can't move and oxygen can't get to your brain. As a consequence you post little rants on blogs - like Ante did on here. Let's take a look at it. This is from a post he put here on January 2, 2010, probably after sleeping it off.
ANTE "PSYCHOPATH" KOVIC:
It is your tactic that is different. After talking like a big, brave, physical man, after saying that I was beat up all the time, after talking like you do could have done this to me, now you want to play the "I'm a poor diabled veteran" routine.
Ante - let me talk real slow so that if you have ADHD you can process a rational thought.
You....have....been....challenged....to....a.....public.....debate...defending....your.....King......James......Onlyism. As....noted....in......the....intro.....to.....this......blog......you....have.....boldly......declared.....your.......desire.......for......this......debate.
The clock counts down from the time you made this grandiose "I'm a big, tough man" claim. Nor have I stated any desire to beat you up. I HAVE stated very clearly that you would most certainly not talk to people the way you do anonymously online or you would get your ass* kicked.
I HAVE ALSO stated that the reason you act so tough online must be because you were beaten up every day going home from school. Why else would you live out your schoolyard fantasies so anonymously? I HAVE ALSO said that at no time did I ever challenge you to a fist fight - I challenged you to a debate publicly. You accepted and put the onus on me. When I began to arrange it, you blinked. You cowered. In a word, you CHICKENED out. So all of your bravado and attempts to shift this onto me are litle more than the musings of a loud-mouthed fool. If I had challenged you to a fight that would be different, but I didn't. I decided to put a loud-mouthed fool named Ante Pavkovic in his place, and he upped the ante (if you'll pardon the pun) - and then he chickened out.
It was you then that began suggesting you'd come to Texas and straighten me out. But you weren't even willing to meet in a public debate, so why waste my time?
Now - I AM a disabled veteran, like it or not. I've not made any fist fight challenges; I've very simply challenged you to back up all your big talk online publicly. You simply don't have the balls to take the public humiliation that would no doubt fall upon your pathetic attempts to justify that we didn't have a Bible until 1611. That's why you came up with some 21 or 22 excuses (I forget the count and what difference does it make? The mere fact you had ONE makes you a loud-mouthed fool who bit off more than he can chew).
You were too afraid to even have a moderated debate on CARM or do one on the CARM phone lines. Remember - YOU are the one who put no restrictions on a moderator, so please don't suddenly try to save your ugly face.
ANTE:
You shameless, gutless little liar.
Hey pal, once again, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO SHOT HIS MOUTH OFF AND RETREATED FROM DEBATE AS FAST AS HIS LITTLE LEGS COULD RUN.
What part of that don't you get, Holmes?
ANTE:
Were you disabled in combat?
No, nor have I ever said that I was. Have you ever done any more combat other than call people names online? Hmm?
ANTE:
No you were not liar.
Uh, you still haven't PROVEN this case and you've had what nine years now?
I, on the other hand, have exposed both your lies and your hypocrisy all on this blog. Where's YOUR repentance - the one you demand of OTHER people like Todd Bentley all the while going on lying and being a hypocrite day after day after day? Where, Ante?
Your lying and hypocrisy is as much a stench in the nostrils of God as is homosexuality, Ante-Christ.
ANTE:
You are simply a weak, frail excuse of a man with a big, lying mouth.
I'm not the one who insisted on a public debate and turn tail and run. Remember this Ante - despite your delusional/warped view of reality I HAVE NEVER RUN FROM YOU. You have, on the other hand, shot off your mouth and then run away from me.
Case closed, Bubba.
ANTE:
And now, when all your lying and calling real men "cowards" may involve a face to face confrontation, well now you wish to pretend what a poor little helpless veteran you are. You are a military reject who was "gotten rid of" by the military, according to your own words.
1) Still no proof of a lie that you can bring forward.
2) I didn't call a real man a coward; I called YOU one because that's what you are. I don't see you taking up the debate on CARM or anywhere else.
3) I didn't say I was poor and helpless; I said that you could probably beat me up. But you might want to think about that, Ante - if I'm the liar you allege then MAYBE...just maybe...I'm NOT what I said. Maybe in fact I'm 6'9" and would squash you like a bug. Then again you've already flushed yourself down the commode with all your false bravado and failure to follow through on your promise to wipe the floor with me in a debate.
4) I have an honorable discharge, Ante. You never bothered to ask the facts because you are little more than a hateful little, legalistic prick*.
ANTE:
You see, Bitter Bill, it is YOU who lies real good. You are the liar. I have pointed it out.
Well, you've also said David Cloud was not reliable and then quoted him yourself, you've made up facts on the spot, and in the next few days I've uncovered another one of your hypocrisies that I'm going to link to Deception Bytes.
I realize you don't care. Is that demonic possession that causes that?
ANTE:
You lie every time you say I lie.
I've proven you've lied. All anyone has to do to see YOUR hypocrisy is click a link or two here. You can't dispute it, Holmes, because they link to YOUR words. I'm serious - do you have a drinking problem or are you just that much of a two-faced hypocrite?
ANTE:
Its clearly your sin of choice, and you engage in it every day of your disgraceful life.
One would therefore EXPECT PROOF of this, wouldn't they? If this were true you wouldn't STILL be running after shooting off your mouth about a debate.
The record is clear, Ante.
You lie your ass* off and think God looks the other way. I tell the truth about you and the gays you hate will confront you with your hateful ways.
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If words like ass* or prick* offended you, please note that according to Ante Pavkovic, use of those terms is OK. Why? Because they are BIBLICAL designations, found in the KJV. I'm simply using his own method against him.
36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Remember what I said about hypocrites - how the secret hope of a hypocrite is that God will judge him with a different scale? Well when your neck-deep in hypocrisy you can't move and oxygen can't get to your brain. As a consequence you post little rants on blogs - like Ante did on here. Let's take a look at it. This is from a post he put here on January 2, 2010, probably after sleeping it off.
ANTE "PSYCHOPATH" KOVIC:
It is your tactic that is different. After talking like a big, brave, physical man, after saying that I was beat up all the time, after talking like you do could have done this to me, now you want to play the "I'm a poor diabled veteran" routine.
Ante - let me talk real slow so that if you have ADHD you can process a rational thought.
You....have....been....challenged....to....a.....public.....debate...defending....your.....King......James......Onlyism. As....noted....in......the....intro.....to.....this......blog......you....have.....boldly......declared.....your.......desire.......for......this......debate.
The clock counts down from the time you made this grandiose "I'm a big, tough man" claim. Nor have I stated any desire to beat you up. I HAVE stated very clearly that you would most certainly not talk to people the way you do anonymously online or you would get your ass* kicked.
I HAVE ALSO stated that the reason you act so tough online must be because you were beaten up every day going home from school. Why else would you live out your schoolyard fantasies so anonymously? I HAVE ALSO said that at no time did I ever challenge you to a fist fight - I challenged you to a debate publicly. You accepted and put the onus on me. When I began to arrange it, you blinked. You cowered. In a word, you CHICKENED out. So all of your bravado and attempts to shift this onto me are litle more than the musings of a loud-mouthed fool. If I had challenged you to a fight that would be different, but I didn't. I decided to put a loud-mouthed fool named Ante Pavkovic in his place, and he upped the ante (if you'll pardon the pun) - and then he chickened out.
It was you then that began suggesting you'd come to Texas and straighten me out. But you weren't even willing to meet in a public debate, so why waste my time?
Now - I AM a disabled veteran, like it or not. I've not made any fist fight challenges; I've very simply challenged you to back up all your big talk online publicly. You simply don't have the balls to take the public humiliation that would no doubt fall upon your pathetic attempts to justify that we didn't have a Bible until 1611. That's why you came up with some 21 or 22 excuses (I forget the count and what difference does it make? The mere fact you had ONE makes you a loud-mouthed fool who bit off more than he can chew).
You were too afraid to even have a moderated debate on CARM or do one on the CARM phone lines. Remember - YOU are the one who put no restrictions on a moderator, so please don't suddenly try to save your ugly face.
ANTE:
You shameless, gutless little liar.
Hey pal, once again, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO SHOT HIS MOUTH OFF AND RETREATED FROM DEBATE AS FAST AS HIS LITTLE LEGS COULD RUN.
What part of that don't you get, Holmes?
ANTE:
Were you disabled in combat?
No, nor have I ever said that I was. Have you ever done any more combat other than call people names online? Hmm?
ANTE:
No you were not liar.
Uh, you still haven't PROVEN this case and you've had what nine years now?
I, on the other hand, have exposed both your lies and your hypocrisy all on this blog. Where's YOUR repentance - the one you demand of OTHER people like Todd Bentley all the while going on lying and being a hypocrite day after day after day? Where, Ante?
Your lying and hypocrisy is as much a stench in the nostrils of God as is homosexuality, Ante-Christ.
ANTE:
You are simply a weak, frail excuse of a man with a big, lying mouth.
I'm not the one who insisted on a public debate and turn tail and run. Remember this Ante - despite your delusional/warped view of reality I HAVE NEVER RUN FROM YOU. You have, on the other hand, shot off your mouth and then run away from me.
Case closed, Bubba.
ANTE:
And now, when all your lying and calling real men "cowards" may involve a face to face confrontation, well now you wish to pretend what a poor little helpless veteran you are. You are a military reject who was "gotten rid of" by the military, according to your own words.
1) Still no proof of a lie that you can bring forward.
2) I didn't call a real man a coward; I called YOU one because that's what you are. I don't see you taking up the debate on CARM or anywhere else.
3) I didn't say I was poor and helpless; I said that you could probably beat me up. But you might want to think about that, Ante - if I'm the liar you allege then MAYBE...just maybe...I'm NOT what I said. Maybe in fact I'm 6'9" and would squash you like a bug. Then again you've already flushed yourself down the commode with all your false bravado and failure to follow through on your promise to wipe the floor with me in a debate.
4) I have an honorable discharge, Ante. You never bothered to ask the facts because you are little more than a hateful little, legalistic prick*.
ANTE:
You see, Bitter Bill, it is YOU who lies real good. You are the liar. I have pointed it out.
Well, you've also said David Cloud was not reliable and then quoted him yourself, you've made up facts on the spot, and in the next few days I've uncovered another one of your hypocrisies that I'm going to link to Deception Bytes.
I realize you don't care. Is that demonic possession that causes that?
ANTE:
You lie every time you say I lie.
I've proven you've lied. All anyone has to do to see YOUR hypocrisy is click a link or two here. You can't dispute it, Holmes, because they link to YOUR words. I'm serious - do you have a drinking problem or are you just that much of a two-faced hypocrite?
ANTE:
Its clearly your sin of choice, and you engage in it every day of your disgraceful life.
One would therefore EXPECT PROOF of this, wouldn't they? If this were true you wouldn't STILL be running after shooting off your mouth about a debate.
The record is clear, Ante.
You lie your ass* off and think God looks the other way. I tell the truth about you and the gays you hate will confront you with your hateful ways.
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If words like ass* or prick* offended you, please note that according to Ante Pavkovic, use of those terms is OK. Why? Because they are BIBLICAL designations, found in the KJV. I'm simply using his own method against him.
Saturday, May 29, 2010
More Ante Hypocrisy
Want some irony? Our resident hypocrite - the one who whines about 'slander' on this blog that simply quotes him (I guess he's slandering himself) - types this:
Hank and the rapture!
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Dear power2U;
A lot of people DON'T trust Hank the heretic Hanegraff. He attacks everything and everyone. He is also a hypocrite who lives in a big, expensive house while chiding prosperity preachers. He does not believe in all the Bible says, just the parts that suit his vain mind. He has slandered thousands of ministers, and moves of God around the world. He even had the gall to speak against the ministry and teachings Charles Finney! The man is arrogant.
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Wow.
In one post, Ante Pavkovic - who whines about people 'slandering' him when all that's been done is a collection of his infantile posts:
a) Calls a Christian brother a 'heretic'
b) Uses a generalization (he attacks everyone and everything) that is absurd on its face
c) Calls the man a hypocrite
And after all these expressions of Christian love, what does Ante say?
"He has slandered thousands of ministers."
The only thing I would say is that operating on the principle of "It takes one to know one," perhaps Ante is right when he calls Hank a hypocrite. If anyone would know about hypocrisy, it's Ante Pavkovic.
Hank and the rapture!
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Dear power2U;
A lot of people DON'T trust Hank the heretic Hanegraff. He attacks everything and everyone. He is also a hypocrite who lives in a big, expensive house while chiding prosperity preachers. He does not believe in all the Bible says, just the parts that suit his vain mind. He has slandered thousands of ministers, and moves of God around the world. He even had the gall to speak against the ministry and teachings Charles Finney! The man is arrogant.
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Wow.
In one post, Ante Pavkovic - who whines about people 'slandering' him when all that's been done is a collection of his infantile posts:
a) Calls a Christian brother a 'heretic'
b) Uses a generalization (he attacks everyone and everything) that is absurd on its face
c) Calls the man a hypocrite
And after all these expressions of Christian love, what does Ante say?
"He has slandered thousands of ministers."
The only thing I would say is that operating on the principle of "It takes one to know one," perhaps Ante is right when he calls Hank a hypocrite. If anyone would know about hypocrisy, it's Ante Pavkovic.
Ante Pavkovic Debates....Ante Pavkovic
As I've noted earlier, we are parsing through the wicked lies and repeated hypocrisies of an Internet fundamentalist (a book burner who also burns non-KJV Bibles), a public speaker for Operation (En)S(l)ave America, Ante Pavkovic. Pavkovic has himself a long resume of picking fights on the Net and getting tossed off of discussion boards. But unfortunately for him there's a paper trail. Last time we covered Ante's hypocrisy about David Cloud. And on "Deception Bytes" I covered his hypocrisy regarding his own judgment of people's souls. So now we see that Ante just makes it up as he goes (in other words, LIES) when he tells us about church history.
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