As I've said, the problem with Ante Pavkovic's hypocrisy is that you just don't even have to look very hard to find it. Let's see Ante fall on both sides of the issue just like Bil Clinton
1) Ante Blasts Another Poster For Using Wikipedia
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Perhaps Steve is unaware that Wikepdia is HARDLY a research site. Anyone, AND I MEAN ANYONE can post there whatever they want! The fact he quotes from this FRIVILOUS source to "prove" I am a deceiver says it all. Someone has a pride-issue. I gave you qoutations and referred to you actual RESEARCH with Statistics and records of every study done to show accuracy. Steve responds with a Wiki article! LOL! That's how he can maintain his errors about what I have said, and about me personally.
Hmm. So Steve (whom Ante is attacking) is a deceiver who uses what Ante terms a frivolous source, huh?
So it's safe to say that Ante himself would NEVER use Wikipedia, right?
Oops - somebody just got busted again!!
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Our brave little hypocrite tells us - in the fourth paragraph:
Rick Joyner’s mentors have been Bob Jones, a man who would counsel women to take off their clothes and “stand transparent before the Lord” while he "ministered" to them "prophetically" by fondling them (Wikipedia, Mike Bickle, note 16).
WOW!! Did you catch that? Ante Pavkovic slams a poster for using Wikipedia nd calls it frivlous BUT - as is ALWAYS the case with hypocrites like Ante - it wasn't too frivlous for HIM to use, was it?
(Now - I realize that Ante's method of "repenting" which he never does though demanding it of others - will be to simply edit it out. Too bad, Ante. I learned a lot from you and the first thing I learned is to save copoies when liars like you are exposed.
Oh and he can lie all he wants - I'm sure he'll blame somebody else. Mostly because that's what hypocrites like Ante Pavkovic always do when caught red-handed.
Saturday, June 19, 2010
Saturday, June 12, 2010
Ante Pavkovic Shows Us That "Love For Jesus" With His Hate-Filled Mouth
Does Ante Pavkovic ever READ his Bible? I hope so because if he did he would see these haunting words in his very own KJV:
36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Remember what I said about hypocrites - how the secret hope of a hypocrite is that God will judge him with a different scale? Well when your neck-deep in hypocrisy you can't move and oxygen can't get to your brain. As a consequence you post little rants on blogs - like Ante did on here. Let's take a look at it. This is from a post he put here on January 2, 2010, probably after sleeping it off.
ANTE "PSYCHOPATH" KOVIC:
It is your tactic that is different. After talking like a big, brave, physical man, after saying that I was beat up all the time, after talking like you do could have done this to me, now you want to play the "I'm a poor diabled veteran" routine.
Ante - let me talk real slow so that if you have ADHD you can process a rational thought.
You....have....been....challenged....to....a.....public.....debate...defending....your.....King......James......Onlyism. As....noted....in......the....intro.....to.....this......blog......you....have.....boldly......declared.....your.......desire.......for......this......debate.
The clock counts down from the time you made this grandiose "I'm a big, tough man" claim. Nor have I stated any desire to beat you up. I HAVE stated very clearly that you would most certainly not talk to people the way you do anonymously online or you would get your ass* kicked.
I HAVE ALSO stated that the reason you act so tough online must be because you were beaten up every day going home from school. Why else would you live out your schoolyard fantasies so anonymously? I HAVE ALSO said that at no time did I ever challenge you to a fist fight - I challenged you to a debate publicly. You accepted and put the onus on me. When I began to arrange it, you blinked. You cowered. In a word, you CHICKENED out. So all of your bravado and attempts to shift this onto me are litle more than the musings of a loud-mouthed fool. If I had challenged you to a fight that would be different, but I didn't. I decided to put a loud-mouthed fool named Ante Pavkovic in his place, and he upped the ante (if you'll pardon the pun) - and then he chickened out.
It was you then that began suggesting you'd come to Texas and straighten me out. But you weren't even willing to meet in a public debate, so why waste my time?
Now - I AM a disabled veteran, like it or not. I've not made any fist fight challenges; I've very simply challenged you to back up all your big talk online publicly. You simply don't have the balls to take the public humiliation that would no doubt fall upon your pathetic attempts to justify that we didn't have a Bible until 1611. That's why you came up with some 21 or 22 excuses (I forget the count and what difference does it make? The mere fact you had ONE makes you a loud-mouthed fool who bit off more than he can chew).
You were too afraid to even have a moderated debate on CARM or do one on the CARM phone lines. Remember - YOU are the one who put no restrictions on a moderator, so please don't suddenly try to save your ugly face.
ANTE:
You shameless, gutless little liar.
Hey pal, once again, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO SHOT HIS MOUTH OFF AND RETREATED FROM DEBATE AS FAST AS HIS LITTLE LEGS COULD RUN.
What part of that don't you get, Holmes?
ANTE:
Were you disabled in combat?
No, nor have I ever said that I was. Have you ever done any more combat other than call people names online? Hmm?
ANTE:
No you were not liar.
Uh, you still haven't PROVEN this case and you've had what nine years now?
I, on the other hand, have exposed both your lies and your hypocrisy all on this blog. Where's YOUR repentance - the one you demand of OTHER people like Todd Bentley all the while going on lying and being a hypocrite day after day after day? Where, Ante?
Your lying and hypocrisy is as much a stench in the nostrils of God as is homosexuality, Ante-Christ.
ANTE:
You are simply a weak, frail excuse of a man with a big, lying mouth.
I'm not the one who insisted on a public debate and turn tail and run. Remember this Ante - despite your delusional/warped view of reality I HAVE NEVER RUN FROM YOU. You have, on the other hand, shot off your mouth and then run away from me.
Case closed, Bubba.
ANTE:
And now, when all your lying and calling real men "cowards" may involve a face to face confrontation, well now you wish to pretend what a poor little helpless veteran you are. You are a military reject who was "gotten rid of" by the military, according to your own words.
1) Still no proof of a lie that you can bring forward.
2) I didn't call a real man a coward; I called YOU one because that's what you are. I don't see you taking up the debate on CARM or anywhere else.
3) I didn't say I was poor and helpless; I said that you could probably beat me up. But you might want to think about that, Ante - if I'm the liar you allege then MAYBE...just maybe...I'm NOT what I said. Maybe in fact I'm 6'9" and would squash you like a bug. Then again you've already flushed yourself down the commode with all your false bravado and failure to follow through on your promise to wipe the floor with me in a debate.
4) I have an honorable discharge, Ante. You never bothered to ask the facts because you are little more than a hateful little, legalistic prick*.
ANTE:
You see, Bitter Bill, it is YOU who lies real good. You are the liar. I have pointed it out.
Well, you've also said David Cloud was not reliable and then quoted him yourself, you've made up facts on the spot, and in the next few days I've uncovered another one of your hypocrisies that I'm going to link to Deception Bytes.
I realize you don't care. Is that demonic possession that causes that?
ANTE:
You lie every time you say I lie.
I've proven you've lied. All anyone has to do to see YOUR hypocrisy is click a link or two here. You can't dispute it, Holmes, because they link to YOUR words. I'm serious - do you have a drinking problem or are you just that much of a two-faced hypocrite?
ANTE:
Its clearly your sin of choice, and you engage in it every day of your disgraceful life.
One would therefore EXPECT PROOF of this, wouldn't they? If this were true you wouldn't STILL be running after shooting off your mouth about a debate.
The record is clear, Ante.
You lie your ass* off and think God looks the other way. I tell the truth about you and the gays you hate will confront you with your hateful ways.
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If words like ass* or prick* offended you, please note that according to Ante Pavkovic, use of those terms is OK. Why? Because they are BIBLICAL designations, found in the KJV. I'm simply using his own method against him.
36But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
Remember what I said about hypocrites - how the secret hope of a hypocrite is that God will judge him with a different scale? Well when your neck-deep in hypocrisy you can't move and oxygen can't get to your brain. As a consequence you post little rants on blogs - like Ante did on here. Let's take a look at it. This is from a post he put here on January 2, 2010, probably after sleeping it off.
ANTE "PSYCHOPATH" KOVIC:
It is your tactic that is different. After talking like a big, brave, physical man, after saying that I was beat up all the time, after talking like you do could have done this to me, now you want to play the "I'm a poor diabled veteran" routine.
Ante - let me talk real slow so that if you have ADHD you can process a rational thought.
You....have....been....challenged....to....a.....public.....debate...defending....your.....King......James......Onlyism. As....noted....in......the....intro.....to.....this......blog......you....have.....boldly......declared.....your.......desire.......for......this......debate.
The clock counts down from the time you made this grandiose "I'm a big, tough man" claim. Nor have I stated any desire to beat you up. I HAVE stated very clearly that you would most certainly not talk to people the way you do anonymously online or you would get your ass* kicked.
I HAVE ALSO stated that the reason you act so tough online must be because you were beaten up every day going home from school. Why else would you live out your schoolyard fantasies so anonymously? I HAVE ALSO said that at no time did I ever challenge you to a fist fight - I challenged you to a debate publicly. You accepted and put the onus on me. When I began to arrange it, you blinked. You cowered. In a word, you CHICKENED out. So all of your bravado and attempts to shift this onto me are litle more than the musings of a loud-mouthed fool. If I had challenged you to a fight that would be different, but I didn't. I decided to put a loud-mouthed fool named Ante Pavkovic in his place, and he upped the ante (if you'll pardon the pun) - and then he chickened out.
It was you then that began suggesting you'd come to Texas and straighten me out. But you weren't even willing to meet in a public debate, so why waste my time?
Now - I AM a disabled veteran, like it or not. I've not made any fist fight challenges; I've very simply challenged you to back up all your big talk online publicly. You simply don't have the balls to take the public humiliation that would no doubt fall upon your pathetic attempts to justify that we didn't have a Bible until 1611. That's why you came up with some 21 or 22 excuses (I forget the count and what difference does it make? The mere fact you had ONE makes you a loud-mouthed fool who bit off more than he can chew).
You were too afraid to even have a moderated debate on CARM or do one on the CARM phone lines. Remember - YOU are the one who put no restrictions on a moderator, so please don't suddenly try to save your ugly face.
ANTE:
You shameless, gutless little liar.
Hey pal, once again, I'M NOT THE ONE WHO SHOT HIS MOUTH OFF AND RETREATED FROM DEBATE AS FAST AS HIS LITTLE LEGS COULD RUN.
What part of that don't you get, Holmes?
ANTE:
Were you disabled in combat?
No, nor have I ever said that I was. Have you ever done any more combat other than call people names online? Hmm?
ANTE:
No you were not liar.
Uh, you still haven't PROVEN this case and you've had what nine years now?
I, on the other hand, have exposed both your lies and your hypocrisy all on this blog. Where's YOUR repentance - the one you demand of OTHER people like Todd Bentley all the while going on lying and being a hypocrite day after day after day? Where, Ante?
Your lying and hypocrisy is as much a stench in the nostrils of God as is homosexuality, Ante-Christ.
ANTE:
You are simply a weak, frail excuse of a man with a big, lying mouth.
I'm not the one who insisted on a public debate and turn tail and run. Remember this Ante - despite your delusional/warped view of reality I HAVE NEVER RUN FROM YOU. You have, on the other hand, shot off your mouth and then run away from me.
Case closed, Bubba.
ANTE:
And now, when all your lying and calling real men "cowards" may involve a face to face confrontation, well now you wish to pretend what a poor little helpless veteran you are. You are a military reject who was "gotten rid of" by the military, according to your own words.
1) Still no proof of a lie that you can bring forward.
2) I didn't call a real man a coward; I called YOU one because that's what you are. I don't see you taking up the debate on CARM or anywhere else.
3) I didn't say I was poor and helpless; I said that you could probably beat me up. But you might want to think about that, Ante - if I'm the liar you allege then MAYBE...just maybe...I'm NOT what I said. Maybe in fact I'm 6'9" and would squash you like a bug. Then again you've already flushed yourself down the commode with all your false bravado and failure to follow through on your promise to wipe the floor with me in a debate.
4) I have an honorable discharge, Ante. You never bothered to ask the facts because you are little more than a hateful little, legalistic prick*.
ANTE:
You see, Bitter Bill, it is YOU who lies real good. You are the liar. I have pointed it out.
Well, you've also said David Cloud was not reliable and then quoted him yourself, you've made up facts on the spot, and in the next few days I've uncovered another one of your hypocrisies that I'm going to link to Deception Bytes.
I realize you don't care. Is that demonic possession that causes that?
ANTE:
You lie every time you say I lie.
I've proven you've lied. All anyone has to do to see YOUR hypocrisy is click a link or two here. You can't dispute it, Holmes, because they link to YOUR words. I'm serious - do you have a drinking problem or are you just that much of a two-faced hypocrite?
ANTE:
Its clearly your sin of choice, and you engage in it every day of your disgraceful life.
One would therefore EXPECT PROOF of this, wouldn't they? If this were true you wouldn't STILL be running after shooting off your mouth about a debate.
The record is clear, Ante.
You lie your ass* off and think God looks the other way. I tell the truth about you and the gays you hate will confront you with your hateful ways.
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If words like ass* or prick* offended you, please note that according to Ante Pavkovic, use of those terms is OK. Why? Because they are BIBLICAL designations, found in the KJV. I'm simply using his own method against him.
Saturday, May 29, 2010
More Ante Hypocrisy
Want some irony? Our resident hypocrite - the one who whines about 'slander' on this blog that simply quotes him (I guess he's slandering himself) - types this:
Hank and the rapture!
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Dear power2U;
A lot of people DON'T trust Hank the heretic Hanegraff. He attacks everything and everyone. He is also a hypocrite who lives in a big, expensive house while chiding prosperity preachers. He does not believe in all the Bible says, just the parts that suit his vain mind. He has slandered thousands of ministers, and moves of God around the world. He even had the gall to speak against the ministry and teachings Charles Finney! The man is arrogant.
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Wow.
In one post, Ante Pavkovic - who whines about people 'slandering' him when all that's been done is a collection of his infantile posts:
a) Calls a Christian brother a 'heretic'
b) Uses a generalization (he attacks everyone and everything) that is absurd on its face
c) Calls the man a hypocrite
And after all these expressions of Christian love, what does Ante say?
"He has slandered thousands of ministers."
The only thing I would say is that operating on the principle of "It takes one to know one," perhaps Ante is right when he calls Hank a hypocrite. If anyone would know about hypocrisy, it's Ante Pavkovic.
Hank and the rapture!
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Dear power2U;
A lot of people DON'T trust Hank the heretic Hanegraff. He attacks everything and everyone. He is also a hypocrite who lives in a big, expensive house while chiding prosperity preachers. He does not believe in all the Bible says, just the parts that suit his vain mind. He has slandered thousands of ministers, and moves of God around the world. He even had the gall to speak against the ministry and teachings Charles Finney! The man is arrogant.
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Wow.
In one post, Ante Pavkovic - who whines about people 'slandering' him when all that's been done is a collection of his infantile posts:
a) Calls a Christian brother a 'heretic'
b) Uses a generalization (he attacks everyone and everything) that is absurd on its face
c) Calls the man a hypocrite
And after all these expressions of Christian love, what does Ante say?
"He has slandered thousands of ministers."
The only thing I would say is that operating on the principle of "It takes one to know one," perhaps Ante is right when he calls Hank a hypocrite. If anyone would know about hypocrisy, it's Ante Pavkovic.
Ante Pavkovic Debates....Ante Pavkovic
As I've noted earlier, we are parsing through the wicked lies and repeated hypocrisies of an Internet fundamentalist (a book burner who also burns non-KJV Bibles), a public speaker for Operation (En)S(l)ave America, Ante Pavkovic. Pavkovic has himself a long resume of picking fights on the Net and getting tossed off of discussion boards. But unfortunately for him there's a paper trail. Last time we covered Ante's hypocrisy about David Cloud. And on "Deception Bytes" I covered his hypocrisy regarding his own judgment of people's souls. So now we see that Ante just makes it up as he goes (in other words, LIES) when he tells us about church history.
Saturday, May 15, 2010
Ante Pavkovic: David Cloud Is, Is Not, Is Reliable....
In further developments of how hypocritical someone can be, let's consider the twin cases of Ante Pavkovic regarding David Cloud, whom he deems an infallible pope when it comes to the KJV but dismisses regarding almost everything else.
First we have
CLOUD IS RELIABLE!!!
How do we know the Ante-Christ thinks this? Because he quotes Cloud on October 31, 2004 on Worthy Boards (about a week after he'd been banished from 'Charisma' for his youthful discretions).
He precedes this with the following amusing claim:
Here is an answer to one of your questions. It is brief, and much more could be said, but I've got to go so, I'll give more if you are really interested, and in doing so, the facts presented with further show Bud's article is as fallacious as I've said:
In other words according to Psychopathkovic, Cloud is reliable. Well, maybe not. All of a sudden in March on Deception Bytes, Ante changes his tune. Confronted with a clipping from Cloud, Ante tells us:
CLOUD IS NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE!!!
Brian cites David Cloud, a man rabidly anti-Pentecostal who seeks to poison the well of this discussion. He is hardly an impartial source, and is not fair to Pentecostals. You see, we are "of the Devil" because we are Pentecostal.
Incredible.
So according to Pavkovic, the reliability of a source depends upon whether or not the source AGREES WITH HIM!!!!
More two-facedness from the Master of it all.
First we have
CLOUD IS RELIABLE!!!
How do we know the Ante-Christ thinks this? Because he quotes Cloud on October 31, 2004 on Worthy Boards (about a week after he'd been banished from 'Charisma' for his youthful discretions).
He precedes this with the following amusing claim:
Here is an answer to one of your questions. It is brief, and much more could be said, but I've got to go so, I'll give more if you are really interested, and in doing so, the facts presented with further show Bud's article is as fallacious as I've said:
In other words according to Psychopathkovic, Cloud is reliable. Well, maybe not. All of a sudden in March on Deception Bytes, Ante changes his tune. Confronted with a clipping from Cloud, Ante tells us:
CLOUD IS NOT A RELIABLE SOURCE!!!
Brian cites David Cloud, a man rabidly anti-Pentecostal who seeks to poison the well of this discussion. He is hardly an impartial source, and is not fair to Pentecostals. You see, we are "of the Devil" because we are Pentecostal.
Incredible.
So according to Pavkovic, the reliability of a source depends upon whether or not the source AGREES WITH HIM!!!!
More two-facedness from the Master of it all.
Ante Pavkovic's Cowardly Rant Against Me On Deception Bytes
Our specimen of Psycho-pathkovic manhood recently demonstrated it by turning tail and running from CARM and then - without the courage to debate online on CARM - decided to flail away at me again. And once again demonstrated that his depths of Hell lying knows no bounds. Wrote our resident mean Croat:
I was wondering when you would play your "ace" card Brian, it was inevitable that it would come, seeing the kind of individual you have shown yourself to be.You always reminded me of your "source". It stands to reason that one dishonest slanderer would cite as a reference another dishonest slander and liar. It is like Obama citing Clintons as a reliable source. Your "source" goes on HOMOSEXUAL WEBSITES looking for slander about me(you see, the Sodomites hate us because we go to Gay Pride events and preach the Gospel and contradict their message). Your "source" quotes Sodomite slanders against Christians! What a source! Your "source" was run out of the military, according to his own words, ( see here http://refutingliars.forumotion.net/the-whole-sad-story-in-chronological-order-f1/part-one-who-is-bill-brown-t2.htm), and he wishes them ill, according to his own words, and is still bitter about it to this day. Your "source" does not believe God preserved His words in any book anywhere, and if anyone says He did, your "source" will attack and villify that person with all the gusto of a demon-possessed man. Nice "Christian" source. You know Brian, you ought to check out your sources a little better. You operate mostly on hearsay, and so have fallen prey to not only being a purveyor of all kinds of error, but now you promote slander and defamation. What a splendid "Christianity" you put forth for others to imitate. No thanks. Ye cessationists are some of the most hateful individuals I have ever dealt with, and that includes rabid Sodomites screaming at us while we present the gospel to them. I would never forsake the Spirit-filled life for the kind of sorry "Christianity" demonstrated here. No thanks.
Now let's just break this down line-by-line and see where the Ante-Christ has crossed the line.
I was wondering when you would play your "ace" card Brian, it was inevitable that it would come, seeing the kind of individual you have shown yourself to be.You always reminded me of your "source". It stands to reason that one dishonest slanderer would cite as a reference another dishonest slander and liar.
Now once again for what must be the ten thousandth time, Ante Pavkovic alleges that I am a liar and a slanderer. But he has had now NINE YEARS to actually PROVE that this is true. He continues to whine about 'slander,' but asked to give even one specific example, he cannot do it. And that is why this blog was born. Documenting the lying musings of a crminal (what else do you call a person who gets arrested on the floor of the US Senate?) is easy pickings.
It is like Obama citing Clintons as a reliable source.
This from a guy who cited Gail Riplinger as a reliable source. So much for reliability from OSA.
Your "source" goes on HOMOSEXUAL WEBSITES looking for slander about me(you see, the Sodomites hate us because we go to Gay Pride events and preach the Gospel and contradict their message).
This statement has a number of lies as well but if you've been to this blog even once, what else do you expect from the Ante-Christ?
1) I do not go to 'homosexual websites.'
He is referencing a blog I cited from someone who noted his pathetic existence on 'Charisma' back in the day. Of course, the fact that Pavkovic KNOWS that this is a 'homosexual website' (it isn't, it is a blog written by a homosexual - which I didn't know but the Psychopathkovic most certainly did) indicates his own travelings there, so bashing me for citing something about him there is hypocritical anyway.
2) Nor did I find slander about him.
Unfortunately, Ante had his picture taken with a good buddy of his. Who happened to be a registered sex offender. These are the people Mr. Pavkovic is comfortable hanging around. It's NOT MY FAULT he likes to hang around such criminals. It's NOT MY FAULT that there's a picture on the Net of him doing it. Is it slander to point out the TRUTH about this? Nope. Hence, I didn't find any 'slander' on him, just a photograph. If he doesn't want his picture taken with a sex offender then he shouldn't hang around one.
Your "source" quotes Sodomite slanders against Christians! What a source!
This from a guy who has cited Gail Riplinger, George Lamsa, and David Cloud (although hypocritically -see a later post for this) as reliable sources.
Oh and notice he didn't give even ONE example. That's because the man is a lying fool who can't prove a claim to save his life.
Your "source" was run out of the military, according to his own words, ( see here http://refutingliars.forumotion.net/the-whole-sad-story-in-chronological-order-f1/part-one-who-is-bill-brown-t2.htm), and he wishes them ill, according to his own words, and is still bitter about it to this day.
Ante picked up a response I put - just to make sure the co-conspirators got it - FIVE YEARS AGO!!! Wow!! And according to him 'I'm bitter about it to this day.' Nope. I'm drawing over $13,000 from your taxes, Ante, and there ain't a thing in the world you can do about it. Tax free, buddy!! That was my 'punishment.'
A CAVEAT REGARDING ANTE'S OBSSESSION
What is amusing is Ante even bringing this issue up. What drove him to such maddening lengths? The same thing that always does, somebody got the best of him on a discussion board and instead of thinking about it, his pride got hurt and he got mad.
What happened was this: given his prior history of lying and making up facts on the spot but then getting bailed out by his banishment from boards (and thus his lying posts removed), I decided to save his comments. I knew a liar like Ante couldn't refrain from lying for very long. Just as some of the loudest anti-gay folks have turned out to be gay themselves, Mr. Pavkovic calls others liars because that's exactly what he is. So this time I saved his posts and pointed out his lies.
Now - you would THINK a guy who claims to be so 'Spirit filled' as Ante would have at least an ounce of humility to acknowledge he got caught. After all, this is the same hypocrite who is demanding that OTHER PEOPLE he alleges have sinned to repent.
WHERE'S THE REPENTANCE OF THIS HYPOCRITE?
So what does Ante do? Instead of admitting he got caught red-handed - and he most certainly did - Ante decided to do what politicians do. He played the old "If I find something out bad about him then that makes my own sinful garbage OK." (Funny how such a 'Spirit filled' clown can act worse than the most worldly people many of us know, isn't it?). So he went over to Classmates, found my name, and found something I wrote WAY BACK in 2005!!
Never did he come to me and ask what anything meant because, like the fool he is, he thinks he knows. And then he opened up a forum to bash me with - after whining for a year about how I was 'slandering' him. Of course his posts are hilarious and demonstrate beyond all doubt what a commode sucking liar he actually is.
He has threatened to show the 'Charimsa' debates. He'll never do that, though, not in their entirety for two reasons. One, it was an INTERACTION, not a debate (you'd think Ante would have paid attention that Ergun Caner is now in hot water over the same type lies Ante himself has told), and once people read this they will know that.
They will also know something else - that Ante got his ass* handed to him and badly. He had NO COHERENT or meaningful response to the eighteen irrefutable points about KJV Onlyism I posted - yet to hear him tell it, he 'refuted' them all. He didn't, and he knows he didn't. If he had, of course, he wouldn't still be bluffing two years later. Furthermore, if he had wiped the floor with me like he alleges, he would have jumped to debate in a heartbeat. He has avoided it like Obama avoids Fox News. But back to the Classmates attack.
Ante TRULY BELIEVES that it really doesn't matter what a liar he is - just so long as he can prove something negative about your person then that makes him right. One must imagine how black the sinful heart of a man would have to be to stoop to such levels but for Ante it's probably reaching up.
He has threatened to sue me, but he knows full well he would fare no better in a jury chair (assuming a court was stupid enough to take it) than he has online.
He has basically threatened to come down to Texas and straighten me out, he has threatened to show the 'Charisma' debates. Indeed, there are no end to the empty threats of an empty suit with an empty cranium.
And Ante's proof of how his lies are not lies? "Well, Maestroh is a military reject." Good one, Ante. And proof you have no recourse other than to admit what a pathetic liar and hypocrite you are. I know, you'll never admit it, but hey everybody else knows it.
On with the show.
Your "source" does not believe God preserved His words in any book anywhere,
This is a fabrication as well. What Ante means when he says this is that I don't limit God's preserved words to AN ENGLISH TRANSLATION that has its own imperfections. Ante doesn't, either. When the KJV has heretical readings like Romans 8:16, he defends them. But then he hypocritically bashes the NIV for what he deems a heretical reading in Micah 5:2. That's what hypocrites do. Well that and hang around registered sex offenders.
and if anyone says He did, your "source" will attack and villify that person with all the gusto of a demon-possessed man.
Wow. If anybody would know vilification it's this worthless piece of dung. This is a guy who has been banned from Charisma, CARM, Sharper Iron, and God Himself knows where else.
And demon-possessed, huh? Wouldn't that be considered SLANDEROUS oh two face of Zagreb?
Oh and btw - Ante was challenged to PROVE this in a debate. After talking big trash about how he'd wipe the floor with me, Ante turned tail and ran like the coward that he is - the moment he realized a debate might actually happen.
Nice "Christian" source. You know Brian, you ought to check out your sources a little better. You operate mostly on hearsay, and so have fallen prey to not only being a purveyor of all kinds of error, but now you promote slander and defamation.
But isn't Ante the one who suggested I'm demon possessed? Ante is also the one who slandered Raymond Low, jsdiv3, BAP, John MacArthur, and Bono - of the latter actually saying he could not possibly be a Christian. Why? Because Bono is a rock musician!!! And in Ante's bigoted worldview, rock musicians are lost.
What a splendid "Christianity" you put forth for others to imitate. No thanks.
Well, none of us is imitating hanging around sex offenders now are we? Oh that's right, you're actually DOING it. OK.
Ye cessationists are some of the most hateful individuals I have ever dealt with, and that includes rabid Sodomites screaming at us while we present the gospel to them.
Talk about slander!! Is there a picture of this guy in the dictionary next to the word 'hypocrite' or what? Out of one side of his hate-filled mouth he whines about slander - and out of the other he calls his theological opponents "some of the most hateful individuals" he has ever dealt with.
Then again if anyone would know hate it's Ante Pavkovic. He is, after all, part of a group that burns Bibles that are not the KJV. I guess it takes one to know one.
I would never forsake the Spirit-filled life for the kind of sorry "Christianity" demonstrated here. No thanks.
Well, Ante is full of something, but it ain't the Spirit.
I was wondering when you would play your "ace" card Brian, it was inevitable that it would come, seeing the kind of individual you have shown yourself to be.You always reminded me of your "source". It stands to reason that one dishonest slanderer would cite as a reference another dishonest slander and liar. It is like Obama citing Clintons as a reliable source. Your "source" goes on HOMOSEXUAL WEBSITES looking for slander about me(you see, the Sodomites hate us because we go to Gay Pride events and preach the Gospel and contradict their message). Your "source" quotes Sodomite slanders against Christians! What a source! Your "source" was run out of the military, according to his own words, ( see here http://refutingliars.forumotion.net/the-whole-sad-story-in-chronological-order-f1/part-one-who-is-bill-brown-t2.htm), and he wishes them ill, according to his own words, and is still bitter about it to this day. Your "source" does not believe God preserved His words in any book anywhere, and if anyone says He did, your "source" will attack and villify that person with all the gusto of a demon-possessed man. Nice "Christian" source. You know Brian, you ought to check out your sources a little better. You operate mostly on hearsay, and so have fallen prey to not only being a purveyor of all kinds of error, but now you promote slander and defamation. What a splendid "Christianity" you put forth for others to imitate. No thanks. Ye cessationists are some of the most hateful individuals I have ever dealt with, and that includes rabid Sodomites screaming at us while we present the gospel to them. I would never forsake the Spirit-filled life for the kind of sorry "Christianity" demonstrated here. No thanks.
Now let's just break this down line-by-line and see where the Ante-Christ has crossed the line.
I was wondering when you would play your "ace" card Brian, it was inevitable that it would come, seeing the kind of individual you have shown yourself to be.You always reminded me of your "source". It stands to reason that one dishonest slanderer would cite as a reference another dishonest slander and liar.
Now once again for what must be the ten thousandth time, Ante Pavkovic alleges that I am a liar and a slanderer. But he has had now NINE YEARS to actually PROVE that this is true. He continues to whine about 'slander,' but asked to give even one specific example, he cannot do it. And that is why this blog was born. Documenting the lying musings of a crminal (what else do you call a person who gets arrested on the floor of the US Senate?) is easy pickings.
It is like Obama citing Clintons as a reliable source.
This from a guy who cited Gail Riplinger as a reliable source. So much for reliability from OSA.
Your "source" goes on HOMOSEXUAL WEBSITES looking for slander about me(you see, the Sodomites hate us because we go to Gay Pride events and preach the Gospel and contradict their message).
This statement has a number of lies as well but if you've been to this blog even once, what else do you expect from the Ante-Christ?
1) I do not go to 'homosexual websites.'
He is referencing a blog I cited from someone who noted his pathetic existence on 'Charisma' back in the day. Of course, the fact that Pavkovic KNOWS that this is a 'homosexual website' (it isn't, it is a blog written by a homosexual - which I didn't know but the Psychopathkovic most certainly did) indicates his own travelings there, so bashing me for citing something about him there is hypocritical anyway.
2) Nor did I find slander about him.
Unfortunately, Ante had his picture taken with a good buddy of his. Who happened to be a registered sex offender. These are the people Mr. Pavkovic is comfortable hanging around. It's NOT MY FAULT he likes to hang around such criminals. It's NOT MY FAULT that there's a picture on the Net of him doing it. Is it slander to point out the TRUTH about this? Nope. Hence, I didn't find any 'slander' on him, just a photograph. If he doesn't want his picture taken with a sex offender then he shouldn't hang around one.
Your "source" quotes Sodomite slanders against Christians! What a source!
This from a guy who has cited Gail Riplinger, George Lamsa, and David Cloud (although hypocritically -see a later post for this) as reliable sources.
Oh and notice he didn't give even ONE example. That's because the man is a lying fool who can't prove a claim to save his life.
Your "source" was run out of the military, according to his own words, ( see here http://refutingliars.forumotion.net/the-whole-sad-story-in-chronological-order-f1/part-one-who-is-bill-brown-t2.htm), and he wishes them ill, according to his own words, and is still bitter about it to this day.
Ante picked up a response I put - just to make sure the co-conspirators got it - FIVE YEARS AGO!!! Wow!! And according to him 'I'm bitter about it to this day.' Nope. I'm drawing over $13,000 from your taxes, Ante, and there ain't a thing in the world you can do about it. Tax free, buddy!! That was my 'punishment.'
A CAVEAT REGARDING ANTE'S OBSSESSION
What is amusing is Ante even bringing this issue up. What drove him to such maddening lengths? The same thing that always does, somebody got the best of him on a discussion board and instead of thinking about it, his pride got hurt and he got mad.
What happened was this: given his prior history of lying and making up facts on the spot but then getting bailed out by his banishment from boards (and thus his lying posts removed), I decided to save his comments. I knew a liar like Ante couldn't refrain from lying for very long. Just as some of the loudest anti-gay folks have turned out to be gay themselves, Mr. Pavkovic calls others liars because that's exactly what he is. So this time I saved his posts and pointed out his lies.
Now - you would THINK a guy who claims to be so 'Spirit filled' as Ante would have at least an ounce of humility to acknowledge he got caught. After all, this is the same hypocrite who is demanding that OTHER PEOPLE he alleges have sinned to repent.
WHERE'S THE REPENTANCE OF THIS HYPOCRITE?
So what does Ante do? Instead of admitting he got caught red-handed - and he most certainly did - Ante decided to do what politicians do. He played the old "If I find something out bad about him then that makes my own sinful garbage OK." (Funny how such a 'Spirit filled' clown can act worse than the most worldly people many of us know, isn't it?). So he went over to Classmates, found my name, and found something I wrote WAY BACK in 2005!!
Never did he come to me and ask what anything meant because, like the fool he is, he thinks he knows. And then he opened up a forum to bash me with - after whining for a year about how I was 'slandering' him. Of course his posts are hilarious and demonstrate beyond all doubt what a commode sucking liar he actually is.
He has threatened to show the 'Charimsa' debates. He'll never do that, though, not in their entirety for two reasons. One, it was an INTERACTION, not a debate (you'd think Ante would have paid attention that Ergun Caner is now in hot water over the same type lies Ante himself has told), and once people read this they will know that.
They will also know something else - that Ante got his ass* handed to him and badly. He had NO COHERENT or meaningful response to the eighteen irrefutable points about KJV Onlyism I posted - yet to hear him tell it, he 'refuted' them all. He didn't, and he knows he didn't. If he had, of course, he wouldn't still be bluffing two years later. Furthermore, if he had wiped the floor with me like he alleges, he would have jumped to debate in a heartbeat. He has avoided it like Obama avoids Fox News. But back to the Classmates attack.
Ante TRULY BELIEVES that it really doesn't matter what a liar he is - just so long as he can prove something negative about your person then that makes him right. One must imagine how black the sinful heart of a man would have to be to stoop to such levels but for Ante it's probably reaching up.
He has threatened to sue me, but he knows full well he would fare no better in a jury chair (assuming a court was stupid enough to take it) than he has online.
He has basically threatened to come down to Texas and straighten me out, he has threatened to show the 'Charisma' debates. Indeed, there are no end to the empty threats of an empty suit with an empty cranium.
And Ante's proof of how his lies are not lies? "Well, Maestroh is a military reject." Good one, Ante. And proof you have no recourse other than to admit what a pathetic liar and hypocrite you are. I know, you'll never admit it, but hey everybody else knows it.
On with the show.
Your "source" does not believe God preserved His words in any book anywhere,
This is a fabrication as well. What Ante means when he says this is that I don't limit God's preserved words to AN ENGLISH TRANSLATION that has its own imperfections. Ante doesn't, either. When the KJV has heretical readings like Romans 8:16, he defends them. But then he hypocritically bashes the NIV for what he deems a heretical reading in Micah 5:2. That's what hypocrites do. Well that and hang around registered sex offenders.
and if anyone says He did, your "source" will attack and villify that person with all the gusto of a demon-possessed man.
Wow. If anybody would know vilification it's this worthless piece of dung. This is a guy who has been banned from Charisma, CARM, Sharper Iron, and God Himself knows where else.
And demon-possessed, huh? Wouldn't that be considered SLANDEROUS oh two face of Zagreb?
Oh and btw - Ante was challenged to PROVE this in a debate. After talking big trash about how he'd wipe the floor with me, Ante turned tail and ran like the coward that he is - the moment he realized a debate might actually happen.
Nice "Christian" source. You know Brian, you ought to check out your sources a little better. You operate mostly on hearsay, and so have fallen prey to not only being a purveyor of all kinds of error, but now you promote slander and defamation.
But isn't Ante the one who suggested I'm demon possessed? Ante is also the one who slandered Raymond Low, jsdiv3, BAP, John MacArthur, and Bono - of the latter actually saying he could not possibly be a Christian. Why? Because Bono is a rock musician!!! And in Ante's bigoted worldview, rock musicians are lost.
What a splendid "Christianity" you put forth for others to imitate. No thanks.
Well, none of us is imitating hanging around sex offenders now are we? Oh that's right, you're actually DOING it. OK.
Ye cessationists are some of the most hateful individuals I have ever dealt with, and that includes rabid Sodomites screaming at us while we present the gospel to them.
Talk about slander!! Is there a picture of this guy in the dictionary next to the word 'hypocrite' or what? Out of one side of his hate-filled mouth he whines about slander - and out of the other he calls his theological opponents "some of the most hateful individuals" he has ever dealt with.
Then again if anyone would know hate it's Ante Pavkovic. He is, after all, part of a group that burns Bibles that are not the KJV. I guess it takes one to know one.
I would never forsake the Spirit-filled life for the kind of sorry "Christianity" demonstrated here. No thanks.
Well, Ante is full of something, but it ain't the Spirit.
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